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gotchacovered Posted - 03/26/2012 : 09:47:39 AM
Columbia is talking about repealing what people are calling the "stand your ground" doctrine on self-defense. Right now, if someone tries to mug you in public, you can shoot them. As I understand it, a repeal would mean that you would no longer have the right to use dealy force to defend yourself or others in public. We need to heat up some Columbia phone lines and mail boxes. We obviously need to keep people from shooting others over minor squabbles and tussles and reign in any Barny Pfifes out there with an itchy finger, but we should be able to do that without completely tossing the self-defense rights of upright citizens in the trash can. Simply put, it should not be illegal to kill someone who's trying to kill an innocent person or pointing a deadly weapon at them with criminal intent. We can't let the law SERVE the CRIMINALS. Allowance for the level of force used should be commensurate with the level of the threat. Basically, from what I understand, if they pass this repeal, then all those CWP's will be amost useless. I may be misunderstading this because I haven't read much on it, but it seems pretty dangerous to me, and it looks like a back-door attempt by the Liberals to effectively neuter the CWP laws, which they obviously hate. What's the point in carrying a gun if you can't use it when you need to? If someone has read up on this within the last day or two, please explain further.






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Fred67 Posted - 05/17/2012 : 2:35:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Mandopickr

I wonder how Nancy Grace will slant this news, especially since she's already convicted Zimmerman.



She won't slant it, no good news person would do that. She will man up and make a public apology and tell the world she jumped the gun.

For some reason that woman gives me shivers.

< Evil is simply the absence of God >
Mandopickr Posted - 05/16/2012 : 4:21:22 PM
I wonder how Nancy Grace will slant this news, especially since she's already convicted Zimmerman.
gotchacovered Posted - 05/16/2012 : 09:23:36 AM
OK, now that the alias has finished his tantrum, back to the topic.

According to recent news reports, the latest evidence shows that (1) Zimmerman was treated for two black eyes, a busted nose, cuts on back of head, and an injured back the morning after the Martin incident, and (2) Martin had cuts on his--get this--KNUCKLES!






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gotchacovered Posted - 05/15/2012 : 11:15:11 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Fred67

quote:
Originally posted by FriedDOAShrimp

No i'd rather not stumble in to the politics forum as no one i've seen post is objective and certainly not yourself.



Gotcha not objective.... man your crazy! Strong in his believes yep, but also objective. At least in my short time on CharlestonFishing that's the impression I get.

Gotcha aside, this place has lot's of objective posters. But what's the point in being objective all the time and loosing track of who you are and how you were brought up.

I am objective to anyone that thinks we should cower down to a bully. I am objective to fighting, but I will defend myself and at my age fighting would be a last resort if I couldn't use a weapon. After all do you fight to loose? No.

I can not currently use my right arm, but I've become pretty fair shooting with the left. Just using a shot gun remember to keep it off your cheek or it will leave a bruise. How's that for open admittance of stumbling?

< Evil is simply the absence of God >



Thanks, Fred67!

I don't think FDS is crazy, per se. I think he's just not being very objective in that judgment.




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Easy Posted - 05/15/2012 : 10:01:08 AM
Go ahead an YELL Gotcha! I'm hard of hearing and I can't see your lips moving, so I can't guess what you are saying or feeling. I think, he might be, just another Internet Police, wantabe? Was that last sentence redundant? I hope not! The intent was clear.
Fred67 Posted - 05/15/2012 : 10:00:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by FriedDOAShrimp

No i'd rather not stumble in to the politics forum as no one i've seen post is objective and certainly not yourself.



Gotcha not objective.... man your crazy! Strong in his believes yep, but also objective. At least in my short time on CharlestonFishing that's the impression I get.

Gotcha aside, this place has lot's of objective posters. But what's the point in being objective all the time and loosing track of who you are and how you were brought up.

I am objective to anyone that thinks we should cower down to a bully. I am objective to fighting, but I will defend myself and at my age fighting would be a last resort if I couldn't use a weapon. After all do you fight to loose? No.

I can not currently use my right arm, but I've become pretty fair shooting with the left. Just using a shot gun remember to keep it off your cheek or it will leave a bruise. How's that for open admittance of stumbling?

< Evil is simply the absence of God >
gotchacovered Posted - 05/15/2012 : 09:23:37 AM
Maybe he got spun up over my criticism of abortion "rights", since that's what I was talking about when he finally came out of the closet to "do something about it". That topic does tend to ruffle more feathers than the use of all caps (LOL), and when someone jumps into a thread like that on someone, there's usually something about the topic that draws him in, even when he already has some kind of petty bone to pick.

If I offend people by opposing abortion, I don't really care, and the same goes for my positions on Obama, the Liberal agenda, Constitutional rights, Jesus as the only Way to God, defense of Israel, the moral decay of America, and every other moral position. I'm not running a popularity contest. I just calls 'em as I sees 'em, and when I deal with people, I prefer the straight shooters over those who will hide their true positions from me. The fact that someone would highlight my use of ALL CAPS amid all that is kind of funny to me. However, I do try to word my posts as kindly as possible, but it's pretty hard sometimes in these heated and obviously emotional discussions, where people are jumping to baseless conclusions and dodging important questions and facts. Much is taken the wrong way--even humor.

P.S. Here's a mildly funny story. While at the College of Charleston, I once wrote a research paper for my Cognitive Psychology class, entitled, "Cognitive Affects of Marijuana". I got an "A" (95). OK, why is that funny? Well, I wrote the WHOLE PAPER in ALL CAPS because I was pretty new on the word processor. The professor didn't seem to mind, but I was worried that it might affect my grade. Now, I only use ALL CAPS to EMPHASIZE CERTAIN WORDS or to draw attention to certain statements. It is meant to take the place of vocal inflexions that are lost in writing or to make certain things stand out amid a sea of other words. Some perceive it as YELLING, but that's just a common perceptual error.






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gotchacovered Posted - 05/14/2012 : 8:51:02 PM
I think this is someone else. YankeeNY seemed to be just pulling some chains in general.






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Easy Posted - 05/14/2012 : 7:53:34 PM
Gotcha, do you think it could really be YankeeNY? You do remember that jerk don't you?
gotchacovered Posted - 05/14/2012 : 6:54:13 PM
Good eye, Easy! Mr. Fried joined less than 5 months ago, but talks about "years". Smells aliasy! Wonder what other ID he's used. Either way, I'm flattered that I've owned so much of Mr. FriedDOAShrimp's mind for "years" that he felt he had to "do something about it"--and all without me ever even knowing he was there reading my posts! LOL! Almost creepy. Perhaps, some aren't aware of the "back" button.






Gotcha Covered,
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https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
Easy Posted - 05/14/2012 : 6:35:04 PM
Hell, DOA! You haven't even been been a Member, for years!
FriedDOAShrimp Posted - 05/14/2012 : 5:15:15 PM
have you ever seen something that bothers you but you try to ignore it for years and then finally you just decide to do something about it.... that was the case here
Easy Posted - 05/14/2012 : 4:50:34 PM
My question is why did DOA bother posting at all? Did he just want to tell Gotcha to not use CAP'S. Seems like, he did put his little toe in, to feel the water, didn't like what he felt and decided to not take a bath!
hhi angler Posted - 05/14/2012 : 3:07:17 PM
Gotch is would appear you do not have some one who would even think about the banter etc just cut and run.
FriedDOAShrimp Posted - 05/14/2012 : 2:19:18 PM
No i'd rather not stumble in to the politics forum as no one i've seen post is objective and certainly not yourself.
gotchacovered Posted - 05/13/2012 : 10:03:18 PM
Excellent. Same here on both counts. Unfortunately, as is obvious from this thread, not everyone is as objective and reasonable. Some wish to play judge and jury, declare Zimmerman guilty, and use the incident as an excuse to push for a ban on the stand-your-ground rule. So, here we are--and while some might think it's for naught, I got the attention of at least one SC Legislator with this thread (possibly more), and that makes it all worthwhile to me. Preserving freedom and justice are worth all caps.

Again, have a great Mother's Day, FriedDOAShrimp. Glad to have a new poster in the Politics forum. Join us for some banter sometime.






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FriedDOAShrimp Posted - 05/13/2012 : 9:35:06 PM
I bet you are... 1. I am in favor of the stand your ground. 2. I don't know if he is guilty or innocent as I don't have all the information only the bits and pieces that the media provides and i don't base an opinion on bits and pieces of evidence.
gotchacovered Posted - 05/13/2012 : 3:18:31 PM
By the way, I understand you're saying about the ALL CAPS. Standard internet protocol considers it YELLING. However, I'm older than the internet, and I don't mean it as yelling when I do it. I do it for the same reason managers put ALL CAPS on signs, like "WET FLOOR" at a restaurant, or "FREE Drink with Purchase". It's to get attention on certain words.

OK, now, back to the question. What's your position on the actual topic here. I look forward to hearing your rational position.






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gotchacovered Posted - 05/13/2012 : 3:08:19 PM
The ALL CAPS are to emphasize certain words and statements and highlight how the opponent is avoiding facts and questions. I only opine in a small fraction of the threads on this site, and even in just a fraction of this forum. We do well because we're good at our profession.

OK, now, with your irrelevant personal slurs and side-tracking comments aside, what's your position on the actual topic of the thread? Are you in favor of the stand-your-ground law, or should we go back to "duty to retreat"? Do you think Zimmerman is "guilty" of a crime? Can you address this topic on a rational basis without emotion and personal comments, or is that all you're going to contribute here? That's not a sarcastic question. I'm being serious.

Often, when people can't make a rational argument against a disliked position, or find themselves defeated, they resort to personal slurs. This may or may not be your situation. Either way, I'd be interested to hear your take on the issue itself rather than unrelated comments that are intented to injure.

Take care, and HAVE A GREAT MOTHER'S DAY!






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https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
FriedDOAShrimp Posted - 05/13/2012 : 2:42:17 PM
Wow. you know the more you ALL CAPS SOMETHING the more you look like an aggressive fool. At least thats my perception. I'm surprised you do as well as you do, when you argue every topic that ever comes up on here.
gotchacovered Posted - 05/03/2012 : 11:34:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by on a fishin mission

quote:
Originally posted by gotchacovered

Thaaaaaaat's what I thought. CRICKETS!






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I heard drags screaming

"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson



No, that was just the sound of PPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT as we all anticipated your EXCUSE for not being able to answer the question!



Just answer it! Don't be a scared fish! I'll tag you and release you.

Do you you support a duty-to-retreat law for abortion, such that abortion is banned and illegal except when it's the "last resort" to save the mother's life? Does "taking a life should be the last resort" also apply to the lives of innocent babies, or does it only apply to the lives of violent criminals?

No more EXCUSES or half-truths.

JUST ANSWER, please.




YES or NO?







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843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
on a fishin mission Posted - 05/03/2012 : 10:55:31 AM
quote:
Originally posted by gotchacovered

Thaaaaaaat's what I thought. CRICKETS!






Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862



I heard drags screaming

"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson
sweetpea Posted - 05/02/2012 : 08:41:51 AM
Now we just need Jesse and Al to show up and bring the all too willing mainstream media with them.
After all; he was just 14 and since the kid had on a hoodie it HAS to be profiling.

jstrange Posted - 05/02/2012 : 07:42:34 AM
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Umm, you gonna eat that?

Thousands have died to save my freedom. Only one has died to save my soul!
Easy Posted - 05/01/2012 : 8:34:49 PM
Just to throw a little more wood on th fire! Officer shoots, wounds teen outside Texas school
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PASADENA, Texas A police officer told investigators Tuesday that he shot a 14-year-old boy suspected in the overnight break-in of a Houston-area classroom after believing the teenager was reaching for a gun.

The boy was in critical but stable condition at a Houston hospital and was expected to survive, authorities said. The officer was placed on leave pending the investigation.

Pasadena Police Assistant Chief Bud Corbett said the officer, a 17-year law enforcement veteran, told investigators he did not know how old the suspected burglar was when he shot him. The names of the boy and the officer were not released.

The boy, an eighth-grader at the school, was shot in the chest by the district police officer, who was investigating a broken window in a portable classroom containing computers after an alarm went off, Pasadena Independent School District Superintendent Kirk Lewis said.

According to a release from the district, the officer arrived at 12:45 a.m. Tuesday at the campus of Miller Intermediate School in the Houston suburb of Pasadena. The officer called for backup but before help arrived he spotted the boy leaving the building.

Corbett said when the boy came out of the structure, he was backlit and appeared as more of a silhouette to the officer, who was standing under a light. The officer then told him to stop, Corbett said.

"The officer observed he had his hands at his chest and he thought that what was in those hands was a gun," said Corbett, whose agency is investigating the shooting along with the Harris County District Attorney's Office. School district police were investigating the burglary.

The boy, dressed in a black hoodie and black shorts, was standing about 20 feet away on some steps outside the classroom when he was shot in the upper chest, near his right shoulder. Corbett said the boy was not shot while trying to run away but had stopped and was facing the officer when he was hit.

It was not until after the shooting that the officer discovered how old the suspected burglar was and that he was not armed but carrying a mesh backpack, which contained contents from the building, according to authorities.

The district said that the incident was the first time in the history of its police department, which was established in 1981, that a firearm was discharged by an officer as part of a law enforcement action.

The portable classroom where the incident occurred was often used for after-school activities but wasn't currently being used as a classroom. Classes at the school went on as scheduled Tuesday.

"We want to make the day as normal as we can for our students," Lewis said.

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