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| RunninLate |
Posted - 04/03/2012 : 4:59:16 PM
I have left the dock many times in the dark but it was in a boat that has radar. BUT with a 21' CC without radar I am a little concern. I do have a route from the marina to the R2W (fishing out of Savannah) in the GPS. I have had to use it a couple of times when the fog rolled in to get back to the marina. I have fished out of Charleston a couple of times and leaving Charleston Habor is a lot easier than leaving the sound in Savannah.
Would you leave in the dark if you can not see 100' in front of the boat? Also, in Savannah running out the sound, that is usually the ruffest part to a smooth day.
Our snapper banks are 35 miles off the sea buoy, the Navy Towers are 40 to 45 miles out and the stream is 60 miles out at the closest point.
Would love to be at the towers or farther when the sun comes up.
Ricky Friedenberg
Savannah, GA
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| skinneej |
Posted - 04/16/2012 : 10:05:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RussB
Also, just having a radar on board dosen't mean a dang thing if the only time one turns it on is in the dark or fog. Make sure it is tuned right, read the manual, get to know how to fine tune it for different conditions, and USE it during the daytime as well so one gets totally familiar with it and what looks like what on the screen. The last place one wants to be trying to figure out how to tune the sea state or rain clutter settings is when one is needing to be paying attention to ones surroundings.
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That's a great point. Though, legally a vessel must use all available means to avoid collision, anyway, which includes radar as well... |
| dreamin-on |
Posted - 04/16/2012 : 10:04:48 PM
I don't worry about my navigation skills. It's everyone else's.
Am I not the only one who's left in a dark fog and herd but not see boats flying past you? |
| RussB |
Posted - 04/16/2012 : 9:28:48 PM
Also, just having a radar on board dosen't mean a dang thing if the only time one turns it on is in the dark or fog. Make sure it is tuned right, read the manual, get to know how to fine tune it for different conditions, and USE it during the daytime as well so one gets totally familiar with it and what looks like what on the screen. The last place one wants to be trying to figure out how to tune the sea state or rain clutter settings is when one is needing to be paying attention to ones surroundings.
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| skinneej |
Posted - 04/16/2012 : 8:47:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tlread
it was thick soupy fog sir! couldnt see the creek banks!! no it may not have been a good idea but i got away with it!! but im sure uve done it more than everyone else and i should trust u
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I think on average, you will get away with Russian Roulettes 5 out of 6 times with a 6 shooter... I sense your sarcasm, and I raise you one by telling you that I do NOT go out in fog without a radar, so no, you have definitely done it more than me... I go out in the dark all of the time and in the fog when I have to, but I have a 6kw open array radar. |
| Reel Fun |
Posted - 04/16/2012 : 8:44:58 PM
Leave at 5 PM. Back when we were young (and not as wise), wife and I used to take the 20' center console out to 120' the night before, troll till dark, set up over structure and bottom fish till 4 am. Headed to the ledge and were trolling before first light. Likely caught 1/2 the days catch between then and 9 am.
Wiser would have been to have a 2nd boat and 1 of us with radar.
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| tlread |
Posted - 04/10/2012 : 12:07:25 AM
it was thick soupy fog sir! couldnt see the creek banks!! no it may not have been a good idea but i got away with it!! but im sure uve done it more than everyone else and i should trust u
quote:
Originally posted by skinneej
quote:
Originally posted by tlread
wow!! ive left charleston at 4am in the fog from james island creek wasnt that big of a deal get on the radio, stay out of the channel and putt until the fog clears for me that mornin it was between ft sumter and rocks, then it was wide open!
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Just because you did it once and didn't have some ahole run over you doesn't mean it's safe. Trust me. There are guys out there with radar that will just assume that you will move out of the way. Staying out of the channel will keep you safer, but not safe. Lot's of people run outside of the channel. When you are putting along, you are just a speed bump. And, there is a difference between light fog and heavy fog. Sounds like you had some light fog. I've been out on days with heavy fog (I have a radar) and you couldn't see land 25' away. Even with radar it's a bit sketchy.
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| boatpoor |
Posted - 04/08/2012 : 12:52:51 PM
Have seen boats in the fog that have stoped me and asked where was the landing! Both on the SH sound and bulls bay shrimping!After the trird time around I told one one night that when he put it on the tra he needed to go to walmart and buy a compass and install it. About 20 min. later he came by again and wanted to know where on the tra. to put the compass!! I wish I was kidding, this realy happened! I wish there is a way to easaly transfer my rader form my offshore boat to my shrimping boat or rock fish boat! |
| ladyshrimpkilla |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 11:22:57 PM
If you worried get a radar. Problem solved.
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| jerb |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 11:10:51 PM
Left p&l landing at lake Murray one morning in the fog and thought we'd idle to the main lake and get out of the fog. After passing a few boats one ask if we were catching any and we said were not fishing yet and he replys oh I thought you were trolling in circles this is your 3rd pass by me!!! We had no clue where we were so we anchored up and waited. |
| ladyshrimpkilla |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 11:05:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RunninLate
Would you leave in the dark if you can not see 100' in front of the boat?
Yes.
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| T-Topless |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 11:19:29 AM
Ricky - Love to grab lunch or fish sometime! Missed a trip offshore today since business is strong now - OUCH!
Fishb8 - I hear you! Went off in my 26 when I 1st got it. Didn't even have GPS installed yet. Came back in and hit a fog bank starting at the Nearshore Reef. I had a compass heading, we were between the marker buoys, and it was dusk, so we ran 25knots right down the center. Until we hard a huge fog horn. We veered left to miss a container ship coming at us mid-jetties (whew). I ran through he entire harbor past Castle Pinckney and under the old Cooper River Br without seeing anything but 1 can buoy off Harbor Hilton. Used the depth finder to navigate - when we lost 50', we turned till we got 50' again. Cleared up some when we hit Hobcaw creek.
Thanks, Captain Ross
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| Fishb8 |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 11:14:29 AM
Agree skinneej. My radar was not functional then. It sure would have been nice.
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| skinneej |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 11:11:00 AM
Radar is worth it's weight in gold. I will never own another boat again without radar. No problems blazing through the fog if you have a good radar. |
| RunninLate |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 10:57:15 AM
Fishb8, when I got caught in the fog, we did not have GPS but Loran C. As you most likely know, Loran C would draw a straight line from point A to point B and that was it. The depth finder said that we were only in 10' of water when we should have been in 20+ feet. Again, I had NO idea where we were. About 30 minutes later it was nice to see the bow of boat and it was only a 20' boat.
Ricky Friedenberg
Savannah, GA
2004 Sea Pro 206
1975 Mako 171 Angler |
| Fishb8 |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 10:43:04 AM
Dark is one thing, fog another. I have run in the dark plenty of times (I don't like it, but we are very careful). Got just outside the rocks one time and a very dense fog was waiting on us. Could not see ANYTHING. Option was to head back in, but we literally could not see anything, not the rocks, another boat, light nothing. decided we would slowly move offshore via GPS. because it was safer than hopefully "seeing" the rocks. The fog went on for 20-30 miles, never seen it like that before. sometimes we could see several hundred feet, sometimes we could only see feet.
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| RunninLate |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 10:41:00 AM
Hey Ross, was planning going to R6 Navy tower looking for a Cobia or 2 but my crew backed out. We had a commercial underwriter come in. Then I was planning on trying some inshore on Saturday but the wind was blowing 15+ and thunderstorms after lunch.
Back to fog, I have never been so lost as I was about 20+ years ago. Was heading out Wassaw Sound and following a compass heading about 5 kph. When I thought I was out side of the sound and there was land on both sides of the boat, it was time to drop anchor until we found out where we were. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN heading out.
I need to get to Charleston one day and maybe get together for lunch.
Ricky Friedenberg
Savannah, GA
2004 Sea Pro 206
1975 Mako 171 Angler |
| Tugted |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 10:38:26 AM
quote:
Originally posted by cobia256
quote:
Originally posted by Tugted
If you leave the dock in the fog & something happens you will be found negligent.
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As long as you have a proper lookout, are running at a safe speed for the conditions, are displaying the proper nav lights, and sounding the proper sound signals you can not be held liable. They can say you were stupid to be out there, but you will not be found negligent.
Chad
Cobia 256 Express
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Did a lawyer tell you that? It sounds like it.
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| T-Topless |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 10:15:40 AM
Ricky,
Good morning! Ross from www.seaproforum.proboards.com here.
Did you get out yesterday?
We've left with 100' fog, but stop at the end of the Jetties if it isn't clear in the open ocean. Sometimes, the harbor will be foggy, and the open ocean clear.
Personally, I wouldn't leave in any fog any more - took more chances when younger.
How'd you do?
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| skinneej |
Posted - 04/04/2012 : 10:09:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Gut Wrench
Scariest time was at 3-4am when a freakin john boat with no lights crossed right in our path in the harbor.radar never picked it up,caught a glimpse of the spray in the little moonlight that was there,i was scared,pissed all at the same time..
be careful there are some really stupid people out there.
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| Gut Wrench |
Posted - 04/04/2012 : 8:43:19 PM
Scariest time was at 3-4am when a freakin john boat with no lights crossed right in our path in the harbor.radar never picked it up,caught a glimpse of the spray in the little moonlight that was there,i was scared,pissed all at the same time..
be careful there are some really stupid people out there. |
| coosawkane |
Posted - 04/04/2012 : 8:24:15 PM
We do it in a 21 ft boat at 3 going to edisto banks...just bring a flashlight |
| Wando Grill |
Posted - 04/04/2012 : 4:21:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cobia256
quote:
Originally posted by Tugted
If you leave the dock in the fog & something happens you will be found negligent.
21 Contender
As long as you have a proper lookout, are running at a safe speed for the conditions, are displaying the proper nav lights, and sounding the proper sound signals you can not be held liable. They can say you were stupid to be out there, but you will not be found negligent.
You are incorrect.
Chad
Cobia 256 Express
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| cobia256 |
Posted - 04/04/2012 : 3:19:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Tugted
If you leave the dock in the fog & something happens you will be found negligent.
21 Contender
As long as you have a proper lookout, are running at a safe speed for the conditions, are displaying the proper nav lights, and sounding the proper sound signals you can not be held liable. They can say you were stupid to be out there, but you will not be found negligent.
Chad
Cobia 256 Express
Pulled by a Dodge Ram 3500 |
| sshaarda |
Posted - 04/04/2012 : 3:13:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by RussB
In the dark, ok, maybe so with plenty of alert lookouts on watch, in fog no way, It's one thing to be caught out in the fog with no radar, another thing totally to leave the dock with no radar in the fog.
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| RussB |
Posted - 04/04/2012 : 3:11:40 PM
Worst mistake I ever made on a boat in my life was getting pressured by owner and crew to leave the dock during the fog and dark in the Folly river. Made it out ok, but it went against everything I was ever taught and know, It still bothers me a lot to this day that I let myself get pressured into leaving the dock in those conditions.
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