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yakman72
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 Posted - 02/20/2012 : 3:26:13 PM
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so i am starting to get into duck hunting finally. my family is getting a cheasapeake bay retriever or boykin spaniel. i will post back on here later more questions about duck hunting when i have more time and the season starts getting closer. so i am trying to get a 12 gauge semi auto shotgun, but im just trying to convince my mom to allow me to. i found a used ithica .12 gauge semi auto for 1.25 i dont know how much cheaper it can get! but im staring ot try to buy my camo and gun wrap and things one piece at a time ot save money. so i have a main question, what camo is best? i would be hunting around the salt marshes in charleston county and around the coast, and a little bit of upland game hunting on some WMA properties. but what camo is best for ducks? and whats best for upland game, quail, phesant, ext? for ducks i am thinking of mossy oak duck blind or realtree max 4, to wear and wrap my gun in. what do you guys use? and for upland game just my realtree ap stuff or mossy oak break up infinty. so what do you guys use?
There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the mud minnow. |
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flyfishn
Senior Member
676 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2012 : 3:41:08 PM
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kind of camo is not a huge concern. People killed animals before camo was ever sold. People killed plenty of animals with old blob style camo, and today's patterns I feel like are more of a fashion statement, even though they do blend in. I use the same camo patterns for deer/turkey/ducks/dove/anything. All camo does is break up your silhouette against a background so the quality of the product is much more important than the pattern. You dont need camoflage for upland game. just blaze orange for safety. Camo gun wrap is not a necessity either, I shoot my rem 1100 with blued barrel and wood stock and havent noticed a difference between it and hunting with camo'ed guns.
strip..strip..FISH ON! |
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swampwalker
Intermediate Member
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Posted - 02/20/2012 : 6:57:41 PM
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| I agree with flyfishn any camo will work. In any hunting application limiting movement is more crucial than any camo on the market. I would invest in a good gun cleaning kit if you are hunting the salt marsh. Pick up some Ballistol, it will become your best friend when it comes to the salth20. Try to find a manual for the gun you purchased. Learn how to disassemble, clean, and reassemble. Good luck! |
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mrhardware
Senior Member
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Posted - 02/20/2012 : 8:09:47 PM
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Rapchizzle
Senior Member
3672 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2012 : 8:13:55 PM
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Ithica makes a good gun. I have a 16 ga Model 37 pump action and am a big fan. It's light and reliable. RussB has the same gun in 12 ga and as far as I know, he loves it as well.
-Capt. Chris Rapchick
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yakman72
Senior Member
1726 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2012 : 6:25:32 PM
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well that itaca gun fell through.. i have been looking on bobs discount guns and cant find anything for realativly cheap. all the shotguns i have seen are over $400 which isnt that much but i have to decide between a dog or a gun. whick i would train the dog to be a retriever and flush out birds and i need the gun to hunt. kinda no point to have one without the other.. if anybody has one or knows of anyboady with a 12 gauge semi auto or possibly a pump, im interested for the right price. PM me and ill talk to my parents, in the meantime im gonna check the web and local pawn shops for one.
There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the mud minnow. |
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tailwalker2001
Senior Member
204 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2012 : 11:17:53 AM
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RussB
Senior Member
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Posted - 02/22/2012 : 12:18:18 PM
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Shame about the Ithica gun falling thru, have had mine over 25 years and still find it the gun of choice to take hunting, whether ducks or upland game.
Russ B.
www.joinrfa.org
God is great, Beer is good, People are crazy
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reel-boy
Senior Member
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Posted - 02/28/2012 : 8:53:28 PM
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Dont wrap the gun. You can only mess things up. No duck ever turned down a spot because the guns camo didnt match the waders. As for finding a good shotgun, good luck! There are deals everywhere
Reel-Boy
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Curly Dog
Senior Member
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Posted - 02/28/2012 : 10:03:12 PM
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Keep an eye out for local gun shows or check the Carolina Trader. You shouldn't have a problem finding a used Remington 870 for a very reasonable price. They are a great basic no frills tough as nails reliable gun. There's a gun show this coming weekend at the Jamil Temple in Columbia. I've found several good deals at this one. Be patient and don't make a snap judgement just because a gun may be cheap.
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yakman72
Senior Member
1726 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2012 : 9:44:15 PM
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i think if i wait until christmas or until i save 150- 200 bucks it will be worth missing one more bird season to get the gun i want. i think i, looking at a brand new weatherby 12ga semi automatic for 300. is this a good deal? does anybody own own or reccomend a brand, other than than bennelli or winchester? i am also looking at a mossberg because i know they are respected guns but a used mossberg 12ga semi auto is like 400 and unfortuatly that is just to much.
There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the mud minnow. |
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flyfishn
Senior Member
676 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2012 : 10:02:51 PM
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pumps will be cheaper than semi-autos and can be more reliable than semis. Check around for remington 870s, mossbergs, benneli nova, etc. Check pawn shops- youll have to get your parents to buy it for you since you arent 18 but some great deals can be had with searching. good luck.
strip..strip..FISH ON! |
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yakman72
Senior Member
1726 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2012 : 07:27:40 AM
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i have kept an eye out for both. i have debated the pro'sj and con's of pump versus semi for months and have decided to get a semi automatic because im a novice hunter and need to be able to get that shot off ASAP. and an autoloader if im correct is like a semi but is more reliable some reason. and i read somewhere that semi's are cheaper and easier to manufacture than pumps but they are still alot more expensive..?
There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the mud minnow. |
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Mombakc
Senior Member
607 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2012 : 07:49:04 AM
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All these different types of camo are such a money making marketing gimmick...I wish I had thought of it when Bill Jordan did. I buy one set of camo cover alls a year....two sizes too big. That way I can dress in layers appropriately with whatever work clothes I have depending on the weather and simply throw the cover alls on when I get out of the truck. I don't even know what "pattern" they are called. It is whatever went on sale after deer season went out though. I personaly feel you'll have more encounters if you can sit still dressed in a coat and tie then if you figit with even the "best" camo pattern on. Also important (especially big game hunting)...Scent control...it does not hurt your normal clothes to wash them in any of the many scent control laundry detergents that are on the market. Again, I don't think any of these are substantialy better than any other either.
Guns...I have personaly been shooting the same 12 gauge remington 870 pump since middle school (I am now 40. It has shot deer, pigs, ducks, doves, turkey, squirrel, quail, pheasant, chuckar, crows and even a few passing black birds...I've even used it as a boat paddle in a pinch and to this day it still shoots like a champ. The only thing I've ever had to do to it was have the extractor claw replaced because it simply wore out from all the rounds and that was two months ago. Whatever you end up getting just remember to take great care of your gear, take extraordinary safety precautions and be passionate about the balance of conservation and hunting.
Contrary to tv you don't have to spend a ton of money to get out and enjoy the woods and be successful. Start out simple and see what works for you. As you progress in experience you'll naturaly figure out what you like and don't like. I personally enjoy the "fasion show" that some hunt camps have become with fellas and gals dressed in a certain pattern from head to toe like they were dipped in it while they're carrying around their $4 thousand dollar shotgun. They look good doing it, don't get me wrong. But what is priceless is the look on their face when I come back in my bargain cover alls with my old pump remington and my limit and interupt their conversation about how "the game just wasn't moving today for some reason."
Just get out there and get it done buddy. Sit still and smell like nothing. You'll be fine.
Good luck.
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Dadfsr
Senior Member
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 08:54:19 AM
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Mombakc has said it all!!!
However I have always kind of liked the ASAT camo that I've seen but haven't had the $$ for any....probably haven't found it on sale yet
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salty849
Senior Member
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 12:50:23 AM
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Originally posted by yakman72
i have kept an eye out for both. i have debated the pro'sj and con's of pump versus semi for months and have decided to get a semi automatic because im a novice hunter and need to be able to get that shot off ASAP. and an autoloader if im correct is like a semi but is more reliable some reason. and i read somewhere that semi's are cheaper and easier to manufacture than pumps but they are still alot more expensive..?
There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the mud minnow.
Get the shot off asap? If you aim you dont need to worry about a second shot and getting it off asap. I started shooting a single shot at an early age, you learn to aim and aim well quickly. I would definetly start off shooting a pump over an auto, get one of the carolina trader papers from the gas station, they have a ton of used guns listed in there.
I also took a look at some of your previous posts and feel like you may be dissapointed if you go to a wma quail and pheasant hunting, whatever you do wear orange and be safe.
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yakman72
Senior Member
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 08:39:54 AM
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i wouldnt use the WMA to much.. just sometimes but my buddy has a hunting club outside of hampton and i have an open invitation with them whenever their going. im goin turkey huntin soon and ill convince him to get after birds once we have a dog. and im still debating the pump or semi auto
There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the mud minnow. |
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zippy81
Junior Member
47 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2012 : 12:41:45 PM
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rottenlog
Junior Member
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Posted - 03/16/2012 : 09:08:01 AM
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| Like everyone else I suggest a Remington 870. It's like the AK of the pump shotguns. Almost indestructible and reliable. The only time mine ever jammed was when I dropped it in a 5 foot ditch. The only thing that happened was the plug went up into the spring, so that was more of a skinny plug problem. It only took me a minute to fix. IMO a semi-auto shotgun isn't much better than a pump. If you can't hit anything with the first two shots you don't even need time to shoot the third...get my drift. A semi-auto is just going to jam up eventually at the exact time you need it to work the most, especially in a salt marsh. |
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yakman72
Senior Member
1726 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2012 : 6:12:53 PM
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Originally posted by zippy81
What kind of shotgun are you hunting turkeys with?
20gauge with vent rib. It's my dads bird gun, I want the 12 for my own. And ill look at the Remingtons
There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the mud minnow. |
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Partners-Ship
Senior Member
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Posted - 03/16/2012 : 7:13:59 PM
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I use my mom's old duck gun. 12 gauage dbl. The trigger guard is broken off and it is probably a 1940's model.
Every turkey I have ever pulled the trigger on went down with one shot. I wish I could say that about my deer marksmanship
Hunting, fishing, and poker are my sports. Work when necessary. |
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Bluerooster
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Posted - 04/16/2012 : 1:45:32 PM
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| Although not the greastest of shotguns, the Mossberg 500 is a 12ga pump gun thats a step below the remington 870. The 870 is where you need to be and they can be found at the gunshops or the pawn shops. Dont ever pay sticker price for them though, always see if you can get them to come down a little. Show up with cash and tell them a fair price for what you want to pay. often times they want to get rid of used inventory and might lower that price for you by a few dollars. Do your homework on the gun, so you know what a used one is going for first. Dont worry about pump or semi auto. Plenty of men can work a pump as fast as an auto and there is less of a chance of it locking up on you. |
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clouser 1
Senior Member
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Posted - 04/16/2012 : 3:04:26 PM
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Mossberg a step down?
If Mossberg is a "step Down" why do they carry a 10 YEAR warranty while the Rem 870 only has a 2 year warranty.
The US Military is now using Mossberg and have dumped using 870's. Dont get me wrong the 870 is one of the best pump actions and is tried and true. However the New 870 is not like the old wing master. If i was to buy a new off the shelf shotgun and had to pick a 870 or a 500/535 hands down it would be a Mossberg! |
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yakman72
Senior Member
1726 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2012 : 10:25:55 PM
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I'm going to get a 535 12 gauge pump from dicks. Thanks guys!
There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the mud minnow. |
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saltydog235
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Posted - 04/23/2012 : 08:12:33 AM
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Just get a synthetic stocked Mossberg, it'll serve you for many years to come. On the dog, if you want a do all duck, quail, dove, deer, recliner dog, then you need to look at a GSP or GWP or Draht over the Boykin or CBR. Camo for me is a dark colored shirt, a ball cap and a pair of blue jeans unless the skeeters are bad then I put on a Bug Tamer. Being quiet and still is much more important that what you are wearing.
Mark
Mako 262 Twin Yammaha F200s
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid" John Wayne
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reel-boy
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Posted - 05/02/2012 : 10:15:09 PM
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Originally posted by clouser 1
Mossberg a step down?
If Mossberg is a "step Down" why do they carry a 10 YEAR warranty while the Rem 870 only has a 2 year warranty.
The US Military is now using Mossberg and have dumped using 870's. Dont get me wrong the 870 is one of the best pump actions and is tried and true. However the New 870 is not like the old wing master. If i was to buy a new off the shelf shotgun and had to pick a 870 or a 500/535 hands down it would be a Mossberg!
I think he is just talking about the over all reputation. Hyundai has a much better warranty than BMW if you get my drift....
Reel-Boy
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