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Mixed Nutz
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 Posted - 03/06/2012 : 10:10:43 PM
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Originally posted by on a fishin mission
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Originally posted by gotchacovered
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Originally posted by on a fishin mission
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OFM, if you claim you were just posting to defend the lady against name-calling, then tell us something, real simply like.
Do you, or do you know, sympathize with the position that health insurance should cover contraceptives?
I'll aslo ask my other unanswered question again. Should the law make insurance cover sex changes?
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
I have said repeatedly that I think the law should not mandate health care. I think if a women wants contraceptives she should get a policy that covers it. I feel the same way about sex changes, get a policy that has that coverage if you want it but no the law should not make insurance cover anything.
"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson
OK, since you said, "I think if a women wants contraceptives she should get a policy that covers it", instead of just saying that people should pay for their own contraceptives, please clarify in context so I'll make no mistake about where you stand on the specific topic at hand.
Specifically, should Obamacare cover that stuff? Should colleges and employers have to offer plans that cover them? What if no insurance plans exist that will cover those things? Should the law be involved at all?
Do you agree that Ms. Fluke is way off and out of line to demand that her college cover her birth-control pills?
Should Ms. Fluke just shut up and either pay for her own pills, buy a policy tht covers them, or go to another college that covers them, or is she right to push the Catholic college to spring for the pills--and to conveniently drag that fight into the political battle that just HAPPENS to be going on right now with the new Obamacare laws and administrative position? Is it all just a happenstance that this all plays together so nicely for the Democrats?
Please take the time to answer each of those questions. I want to know where you really stand on this.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
I think people should pay for their own plans and get what ever they want. I have a vision plan, that I pay extra for. If someone wants a plan that covers contraceptives they should add them to their own policy. My position has never been whether she is way off in demanding coverage or not. My position is that, under our constitution, she should be able to voice her opinion without being called a slut and a prostitute. Should I call you a **** bag mother ****er because I disagree with your position on Keystone XL?
"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson
So in your view, voicing ones opinion is purely a "constitutional" matter, as long as no one else voices their "constitutional" right to disagree??
You better read the Constitution again!!
Start right at the beginning.
...Politicians aren't the "Oldest Profession", but the results are still the same!!! |
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Mixed Nutz
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 10:22:37 PM
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Now call me a whatever you wish, but you said it, I didn't!!
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 10:28:39 PM
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Originally posted by on a fishin mission
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Originally posted by gotchacovered
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Originally posted by on a fishin mission
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Originally posted by gotchacovered
Pffffft. Who said she WROTE the article???? Try to be honest, OFM.
Suuuuure, you're totally just defending someone from being called a name, while you falsely accuse me. HA!
Let's take a poll.
Ask the readers of this thread how many of them find it predictable that OnaFishinMission is defending Mrs. Fluke. If they care enough to respond, and if everyone will be honest, probably 100% of people here could have predicted your involvement here.
By the way, you can add Fox News and the Washington Post to the list of sources that say Fluke is an activist. Let's also just dismiss the fact that she majored in "feminist, gender, and sexuality studies". Nah, you ain't stretchin' a bit.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
So what was your reason for citing the Georgetown annual review, an attempt to show me up no doubt? You were trying so hard to show everyone that I was wrong that you failed to actually look at the article that you thought was so meant to be so damaging, which actually makes you look a little silly. All of this, by the way, plays to my earlier assertion that MFC was not a reilable source for information.
"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson
Do what? How so? Fishb8 cited the journal, OFM, not me, and he was right to do so. I just asked you why you ignored that valid source while you were trying to discredit the other sources that referenced it. You blew them off even though they provided their source, which says what they say it says.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
Hey, OnaFishinMission, uhm, do you think Georgetown University's "Annual Review" publications are a valid enough source, or are you going to say that's no good, too?
This is your quote, as I stated earlier, you were trying so hard to show everyone that I was wrong that you failed to actually look at the article that you thought was meant to be so damaging to my position. Georgetown annual review may be a valid source, if it actually said what MRC claimed it did. Again, this all adds to my assertion that MRC is not a very reliable source of information. I ignored the article because it was edited by Ms. Fluke not written by her. Do you need me to explain the difference between written by and edited by. If the article in the Georgetown annual review had actually been written by Ms. Fluke it would have been relevant. It is not and MRC tries to mislead the readers into thinking it is. Again, MRC is not a good source of information.
"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson
False, OFM. First, I DID look at excerpts of the article, and NOT from the sources you disparaged. Second, I was NOT trying to show that you were "wrong" in what you quoted above. On the contrary, I was only pointing out that the sources you disparaged were RIGHT because they actually cited the original source accurately, and I asked you if that original journal article was a good enough source for you. You seek to dismiss these facts. Finally, you keep talking about the fact that Fluke edited the article instead of writing it, as if I said she wrote it. I did NOT say she wrote it. The point is that the articles that you disparaged cited it accurately and it DOES establish a LINK between Fluke and activism on the topic. If you were being reasonable, you would understand that her involvement with such an article about such a similar title, coupled with her other activist behavior of the past, coupled with her chosen path of study as an undergraduate, coupled with the present events, all leads to the same conclusion--she's an activist and a chess piece in the Democratic Party's present political game, just like the sources said she was.
My point is that you are ignoring facts. You are.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862 |
Edited by - gotchacovered on 03/06/2012 10:58:19 PM |
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 10:35:03 PM
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OnaFishinMission,
You still haven't answered my questions.
1. Do you agree that Ms. Fluke is way off and out of line to demand that her college cover her birth-control pills? YES or NO?
2. Should Obamacare cover that birth control or abortafacients? YES or NO?
3. Should colleges and employers have to offer plans that cover them? YES or NO?
4. What if no insurance plans exist that will cover those things? Should the government then make insurance companies, colleges, or employers cover or pay for them? YES or NO?
5. Should the law be involved at all? YES or NO?
6. Should Ms. Fluke just shut up and either pay for her own pills, buy a policy tht covers them, or go to another college that covers them, or is she right to push the Catholic college to spring for the pills--and to conveniently drag that fight into the political battle that just HAPPENS to be going on right now with the new Obamacare laws and administrative position?
7. Is it all just a happenstance that this all plays together so nicely for the Democrats?
Why can't you directly answer any of these questions???????
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 10:50:36 PM
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"Should I call you a **** bag mother ****er because I disagree with your position on Keystone XL?"
I don't agree with anyone calling any specific person names, OFM. That was NOT your original point, nor is it mine. Your original point was to challenge the accuracy of the claim that Ms. Fluke was a an activist serving the DNC rather than a random "average Joe". You attacked the source, and I pointed out a better one that you had ignored. As for name-calling, the only person I've seen calling anyone in particular names in this post is Mcvlbound, ironically, in support of Ms. Fluke. Where's your criticism for him?
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862 |
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 10:54:18 PM
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Below is your original post on this thread, OFM. It is plain to see that nothing was said about name-calling, but it was only about you attacking sources and suggesting they are wrong about Ms. Fluke being an activist. You weren't taking up for Fluke's right to speak without being called a slut. You were indicting the articles that said she was an ACTIVIST. You disputed their claims that she is an activis based ONLY on your assessment of the sources THEMSELVES--Ad Hominem. So, I pointed you to the article that she edited, which they also cited, and you can't accept that either.
You can't see the point--the sources were RIGHT in what they cited.
She is not a random concerned citizen. She is an activist and a game piece in the Democratic Party's political power play.
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Originally posted by on a fishin mission
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Originally posted by Fishb8
http://mrctv.org/blog/sandra-fluke-gender-reassignment-and-health-insurance
As many have already uncovered Sandra Fluke she is, in reality, a 30 year old long time liberal activist who enrolled at Georgetown with the express purpose of fighting for the school to pay for students' birth control. She has been pushing for mandated coverage of contraceptives at Georgetown for at least three years according to the Washington Post.
However, as I discovered today, birth control is not all that Ms. Fluke believes private health insurance must cover. She also, apparently, believes that it is discrimination deserving of legal action if "gender reassignment" surgeries are not covered by employer provided health insurance. She makes these views clear in an article she co-edited with Karen Hu in the Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law.
Fishb8 (Fish Bait)
23 Sea Hunt "My Last Boat V"
If you can't stand behind our soldiers, try standing in front of them.
So you site an article from an ultra right news network whose mission statement is to discredit mainstream media? The article sites other great media publications as the blaze, alexa shruggs, JWF and another article from MRC. Exceptional find, I'm sure its 100% true~!
"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862 |
Edited by - gotchacovered on 03/06/2012 11:04:31 PM |
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mcvlbound
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 08:53:00 AM
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| The woman was exercising her Constitutional Rights and you guys go way out of your way to vilify her. That's just shameful coming from folks that call themselves conservatives. Your true colors are showing. |
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on a fishin mission
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 10:04:05 AM
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Originally posted by gotchacovered
Below is your original post on this thread, OFM. It is plain to see that nothing was said about name-calling, but it was only about you attacking sources and suggesting they are wrong about Ms. Fluke being an activist. You weren't taking up for Fluke's right to speak without being called a slut. You were indicting the articles that said she was an ACTIVIST. You disputed their claims that she is an activis based ONLY on your assessment of the sources THEMSELVES--Ad Hominem. So, I pointed you to the article that she edited, which they also cited, and you can't accept that either.
You can't see the point--the sources were RIGHT in what they cited.
She is not a random concerned citizen. She is an activist and a game piece in the Democratic Party's political power play.
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Originally posted by on a fishin mission
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Originally posted by Fishb8
http://mrctv.org/blog/sandra-fluke-gender-reassignment-and-health-insurance
As many have already uncovered Sandra Fluke she is, in reality, a 30 year old long time liberal activist who enrolled at Georgetown with the express purpose of fighting for the school to pay for students' birth control. She has been pushing for mandated coverage of contraceptives at Georgetown for at least three years according to the Washington Post.
However, as I discovered today, birth control is not all that Ms. Fluke believes private health insurance must cover. She also, apparently, believes that it is discrimination deserving of legal action if "gender reassignment" surgeries are not covered by employer provided health insurance. She makes these views clear in an article she co-edited with Karen Hu in the Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law.
Fishb8 (Fish Bait)
23 Sea Hunt "My Last Boat V"
If you can't stand behind our soldiers, try standing in front of them.
So you site an article from an ultra right news network whose mission statement is to discredit mainstream media? The article sites other great media publications as the blaze, alexa shruggs, JWF and another article from MRC. Exceptional find, I'm sure its 100% true~!
"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
You're wrong gotcha here is my first response
You really are looking for conspiracies. After your last thread/flop I though you would give it a rest for a week or two.
Here's my second.
Rush is a hypocritical, piece of shat junkie! A total waste of air!
I hope Sandra Fluke sues his oxycotin eating fat ass!
And my third.
Oh I see, you condone calling a young lady, a well educated law student, a slut and a prostitute for voicing her opinion.
and the fourth, the first position I took on this thread.
Ms. Flukes position has not been for sex but the fact that some women need birth control for medical issues. No where have I read that she wants birth control so she could have as much sex as she wants, but this is what the right wants you to believe. As I have said many times, I am not for required heath insurance. I am for a person being able to voice their opinions without being called a slut though.
You have got to be getting tired of me proving you wrong all the time!
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on a fishin mission
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 10:12:02 AM
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Originally posted by Mixed Nutz
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Originally posted by on a fishin mission
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Originally posted by gotchacovered
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Originally posted by on a fishin mission
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Originally posted by gotchacovered
OFM, if you claim you were just posting to defend the lady against name-calling, then tell us something, real simply like.
Do you, or do you know, sympathize with the position that health insurance should cover contraceptives?
I'll aslo ask my other unanswered question again. Should the law make insurance cover sex changes?
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
I have said repeatedly that I think the law should not mandate health care. I think if a women wants contraceptives she should get a policy that covers it. I feel the same way about sex changes, get a policy that has that coverage if you want it but no the law should not make insurance cover anything.
"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson
OK, since you said, "I think if a women wants contraceptives she should get a policy that covers it", instead of just saying that people should pay for their own contraceptives, please clarify in context so I'll make no mistake about where you stand on the specific topic at hand.
Specifically, should Obamacare cover that stuff? Should colleges and employers have to offer plans that cover them? What if no insurance plans exist that will cover those things? Should the law be involved at all?
Do you agree that Ms. Fluke is way off and out of line to demand that her college cover her birth-control pills?
Should Ms. Fluke just shut up and either pay for her own pills, buy a policy tht covers them, or go to another college that covers them, or is she right to push the Catholic college to spring for the pills--and to conveniently drag that fight into the political battle that just HAPPENS to be going on right now with the new Obamacare laws and administrative position? Is it all just a happenstance that this all plays together so nicely for the Democrats?
Please take the time to answer each of those questions. I want to know where you really stand on this.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
I think people should pay for their own plans and get what ever they want. I have a vision plan, that I pay extra for. If someone wants a plan that covers contraceptives they should add them to their own policy. My position has never been whether she is way off in demanding coverage or not. My position is that, under our constitution, she should be able to voice her opinion without being called a slut and a prostitute. Should I call you a **** bag mother ****er because I disagree with your position on Keystone XL?
"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson
So in your view, voicing ones opinion is purely a "constitutional" matter, as long as no one else voices their "constitutional" right to disagree??
You better read the Constitution again!!
Start right at the beginning.
...Politicians aren't the "Oldest Profession", but the results are still the same!!!
Ms. Flukes constitutional right is to speak her mind and people are constitutionally allowed to disagree. Calling someone that you disagree with a slut and a prostitute thought is not a constitutional right, it is slander, and Rush is gonna get sued over it. Hell looking back on it, it's probably the best thing he's ever said.
He has lost 12 national sponsors and had his show pulled from 3 markets with more to come.
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 11:42:56 AM
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Originally posted by mcvlbound
The woman was exercising her Constitutional Rights and you guys go way out of your way to vilify her. That's just shameful coming from folks that call themselves conservatives. Your true colors are showing.
Constitutional right? True colors? Do what?
Rush Limbaugh was also exercising his Constitutional rights in what he said, and you villify him for it. If our speaking the truth about Fluke bad because we're Conservatives, does that mean that your villification of Rush is OK because you're a __________? JUST ASKING.
By the way, we're not villifying Ms. Fluke by simply speaking the truth, MC. She has villified herself. All we're doing is reciting the facts. You whine about that because "she's just exercising her Constitutional rights", but you villify us for exercising our Constitutional rights.
Where do you get this stuff?
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862 |
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DFreedom
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 11:45:02 AM
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| Where is the denouncement of everything Bill Maher has said about Bachman and Palin? No problem with what he said? He is absolutely despicable. Both Palin and Bachman were only exercising THEIR constitutional rights. |
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 11:50:06 AM
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Originally posted by on a fishin mission
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Originally posted by gotchacovered
Below is your original post on this thread, OFM. It is plain to see that nothing was said about name-calling, but it was only about you attacking sources and suggesting they are wrong about Ms. Fluke being an activist. You weren't taking up for Fluke's right to speak without being called a slut. You were indicting the articles that said she was an ACTIVIST. You disputed their claims that she is an activis based ONLY on your assessment of the sources THEMSELVES--Ad Hominem. So, I pointed you to the article that she edited, which they also cited, and you can't accept that either.
You can't see the point--the sources were RIGHT in what they cited.
She is not a random concerned citizen. She is an activist and a game piece in the Democratic Party's political power play.
quote:
Originally posted by on a fishin mission
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Originally posted by Fishb8
http://mrctv.org/blog/sandra-fluke-gender-reassignment-and-health-insurance
As many have already uncovered Sandra Fluke she is, in reality, a 30 year old long time liberal activist who enrolled at Georgetown with the express purpose of fighting for the school to pay for students' birth control. She has been pushing for mandated coverage of contraceptives at Georgetown for at least three years according to the Washington Post.
However, as I discovered today, birth control is not all that Ms. Fluke believes private health insurance must cover. She also, apparently, believes that it is discrimination deserving of legal action if "gender reassignment" surgeries are not covered by employer provided health insurance. She makes these views clear in an article she co-edited with Karen Hu in the Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law.
Fishb8 (Fish Bait)
23 Sea Hunt "My Last Boat V"
If you can't stand behind our soldiers, try standing in front of them.
So you site an article from an ultra right news network whose mission statement is to discredit mainstream media? The article sites other great media publications as the blaze, alexa shruggs, JWF and another article from MRC. Exceptional find, I'm sure its 100% true~!
"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
You're wrong gotcha here is my first response
You really are looking for conspiracies. After your last thread/flop I though you would give it a rest for a week or two.
Here's my second.
Rush is a hypocritical, piece of shat junkie! A total waste of air!
I hope Sandra Fluke sues his oxycotin eating fat ass!
And my third.
Oh I see, you condone calling a young lady, a well educated law student, a slut and a prostitute for voicing her opinion.
and the fourth, the first position I took on this thread.
Ms. Flukes position has not been for sex but the fact that some women need birth control for medical issues. No where have I read that she wants birth control so she could have as much sex as she wants, but this is what the right wants you to believe. As I have said many times, I am not for required heath insurance. I am for a person being able to voice their opinions without being called a slut though.
You have got to be getting tired of me proving you wrong all the time!
"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson
Thank you so much for walking right smack into that trap, OFM!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
I just got you to ADMIT your own HYPOCRISY! Take a look at your OWN admission of your OWN words compared with what position YOU said YOU were taking here.
You said that your only involvement here was to stand against the idea of a person being called names for speaking his opinion!! But your very first posts DID JUST THAT.
YOUR OWN WORDS WERE,
"Rush is a hypocritical, piece of shat junkie! A total waste of air!
I hope Sandra Fluke sues his oxycotin eating fat ass!"
AFTER THAT, YOU SAID,
"As I have said many times, I am not for required heath insurance. I am for a person being able to voice their opinions without being called a slut though."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
So, you're against people being called "slut" when they voice an opinion, but calling people "fat POS", "piece of shat junkie", "total waste of air", and "oxycotin eating fat ass" is totally fine.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR EXPLAINING!!
Hypocrisy in all its glory! Point, match, and that's the game!
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862 |
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 11:56:10 AM
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!
The two Liberals here who call a fellow man a "fat pos", "hypocritical, piece of shat junkie", "total waste of air", "oxycotin eating fat ass", and wished a man dead, are complaining about a woman being called a "slut" by a known shock-show host.
The hypocrisy is sooooooo rich!
It's quite apparent that your strong position against calling people names for speaking opinions only works when the target of the name is a fellow Liberal. It's apparently AOK to blast away with the names against people who disagree with YOU. EXCELLENT WORK, OFM! My job here is done.
Again, for the record, I don't agree with calling Ms. Fluke OR Limbaugh epithetical names. The truth--which the false critics have fully illustrated above--is that this is really about politics, not name calling.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862 |
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 12:23:33 PM
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Let's summarize the position of OnaFishinMission and Mcvlbound.
We object based on the the principle that a person should not be called names for exercising her Constitutional right to speak her opinion. Therefore, for the things Rush Limbaugh has said, we wish that fat, pos, hypocritical, piece of shat junkie, total waste of air, oxycotin-eating fat ass, would shut up, get sued, and die.*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862 |
Edited by - gotchacovered on 03/07/2012 12:30:24 PM |
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Blue_Runner
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 2:05:01 PM
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I would agree with you GC but Rush really is a fat, POS, junkie. I believe therin lies the difference. 
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 3:07:02 PM
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Ahhhhh, so it's all in the eye of the beholder, eeeeh? Whatever bad names people want to hurl at those we don't like are AOK, right? Exactly! It ain't about her being called a slut, and we all know it. It's about POLITICS.
At least Rush paid for his OWN pills.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862 |
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mcvlbound
Senior Member
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 3:12:57 PM
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Originally posted by gotchacovered
Let's summarize the position of OnaFishinMission and Mcvlbound.
We object based on the the principle that a person should not be called names for exercising her Constitutional right to speak her opinion. Therefore, for the things Rush Limbaugh has said, we wish that fat, pos, hypocritical, piece of shat junkie, total waste of air, oxycotin-eating fat ass, would shut up, get sued, and die.*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
Well while you were working so hard to build a case against her right to free speech, you totally neglected her right to petition the government which is also guaranteed by the First Amendment.
The woman has the right to free speech and the right to petition the government in her own interests as well as the interests of any groups she represents even if it a matter of personal prosperity.
So if I defend the woman's Constitutional Rights to go before Congress and state her petition unmolested, I am the liberal?
I pretty much think that you put on whatever coat suits you for the moment. That's what I meant about true colors. |
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 5:12:35 PM
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Do what?? Who has been "working so hard to build a case against her right to free speech"?? What an absurd statement. Her right to free speech has nothing to do with this. No one said she doesn't have a right to free speech or to speak to Congress. However, that right to free speech doesn't eliminate Rush's or my right to free speech or CRITICISM of Ms. Fluke's repugnant position. We're simply saying that she has no right to DEMAND that someone else pay for her birth-control pills--especially a Catholic school that opposes such based on its religion--an equally important Constitutional right, by the way.
In other words, we're not saying she has no right to speak her opinion; we're just saying that her opinion is CRAP. That's exactly what it is--CRAP.
You are supporting her "Constitutional right" to demand that someone else give up their Constitutional right. In so doing, you also blast Rush Limbaugh for exercising HIS "right to free speech" even worse than we have criticized Ms. Fluke.
That is pure hypocrisy, MC--pure hypocrisy. You blast away at the people you disagree with, calling them the worst names in the book, but if we criticize someone we disagree with, we're "buling a case against her Constitutional rights". PFFFFFT!! This is the boldest hypocrisy I think I've ever seen.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862 |
Edited by - gotchacovered on 03/07/2012 5:13:59 PM |
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mcvlbound
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 5:46:01 PM
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Originally posted by gotchacovered
Do what?? Who has been "working so hard to build a case against her right to free speech"?? What an absurd statement. Her right to free speech has nothing to do with this. No one said she doesn't have a right to free speech or to speak to Congress. However, that right to free speech doesn't eliminate Rush's or my right to free speech or CRITICISM of Ms. Fluke's repugnant position. We're simply saying that she has no right to DEMAND that someone else pay for her birth-control pills--especially a Catholic school that opposes such based on its religion--an equally important Constitutional right, by the way.
In other words, we're not saying she has no right to speak her opinion; we're just saying that her opinion is CRAP. That's exactly what it is--CRAP.
You are supporting her "Constitutional right" to demand that someone else give up their Constitutional right. In so doing, you also blast Rush Limbaugh for exercising HIS "right to free speech" even worse than we have criticized Ms. Fluke.
That is pure hypocrisy, MC--pure hypocrisy. You blast away at the people you disagree with, calling them the worst names in the book, but if we criticize someone we disagree with, we're "buling a case against her Constitutional rights". PFFFFFT!! This is the boldest hypocrisy I think I've ever seen.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
Limbaugh called her a slut. That's defamation and slander. The first amendment doesn't protect someones right to do that and you know it.
Suppose I went on the radio broadcasting to millions, and called someone close to you, someone that I don't even know much about, a slut....is that what freedom of speech defends? You're defending that, and you consider yourself a Conservative and a Christian?
God help us is all I have to say.
And I'm done. This is the last post for me in this "politics" section. I wish you well in your life, and I hope you get the hereafter you're entitled to.
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Reelly Old
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 5:59:17 PM
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Oh, golly, just when I was getting to enjoy this forum it will disappear forever ... 
Eternity Cannot Be Very Interesting If There's No Disagreement In Heaven!
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Mixed Nutz
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 7:36:37 PM
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Originally posted by mcvlbound
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Originally posted by gotchacovered
Do what?? Who has been "working so hard to build a case against her right to free speech"?? What an absurd statement. Her right to free speech has nothing to do with this. No one said she doesn't have a right to free speech or to speak to Congress. However, that right to free speech doesn't eliminate Rush's or my right to free speech or CRITICISM of Ms. Fluke's repugnant position. We're simply saying that she has no right to DEMAND that someone else pay for her birth-control pills--especially a Catholic school that opposes such based on its religion--an equally important Constitutional right, by the way.
In other words, we're not saying she has no right to speak her opinion; we're just saying that her opinion is CRAP. That's exactly what it is--CRAP.
You are supporting her "Constitutional right" to demand that someone else give up their Constitutional right. In so doing, you also blast Rush Limbaugh for exercising HIS "right to free speech" even worse than we have criticized Ms. Fluke.
That is pure hypocrisy, MC--pure hypocrisy. You blast away at the people you disagree with, calling them the worst names in the book, but if we criticize someone we disagree with, we're "buling a case against her Constitutional rights". PFFFFFT!! This is the boldest hypocrisy I think I've ever seen.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
Limbaugh called her a slut. That's defamation and slander. The first amendment doesn't protect someones right to do that and you know it.
Suppose I went on the radio broadcasting to millions, and called someone close to you, someone that I don't even know much about, a slut....is that what freedom of speech defends? You're defending that, and you consider yourself a Conservative and a Christian?
God help us is all I have to say.
And I'm done. This is the last post for me in this "politics" section. I wish you well in your life, and I hope you get the hereafter you're entitled to.
Limbaugh never called Fluke a slut, but insinuated her actions were that of a slut. You Liberals can't win on your own merits, so you want stop the game? Just remember we have the ball. So just go away, the game is still full on!!
I bet you a bottle of Crown Royal (BIG) that you'll be back. Care to wager??
You Libtards can't get away from telling the rest of us how wrong we are in our ideas of freedom and limited government!
Double or Nothing?
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Mixed Nutz
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 7:48:54 PM
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Ms. Flukes constitutional right is to speak her mind and people are constitutionally allowed to disagree. Calling someone that you disagree with a slut and a prostitute thought is not a constitutional right, it is slander, and Rush is gonna get sued over it. Hell looking back on it, it's probably the best thing he's ever said.
He has lost 12 national sponsors and had his show pulled from 3 markets with more to come.
Limbaugh lost nine national sponsors, and four have already come crawling back.(Liberal Companies) I look for the rest by the end of the week. Unlike you Libtards, we Conservatives have a tendency to support businesses that advertise with folks we agree with.
So their loss of revenue seems to outweigh their stance on the issues doesn't it?
Kind'a like a "prostitute"?????
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 8:40:46 PM
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Originally posted by mcvlbound
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Originally posted by gotchacovered
Do what?? Who has been "working so hard to build a case against her right to free speech"?? What an absurd statement. Her right to free speech has nothing to do with this. No one said she doesn't have a right to free speech or to speak to Congress. However, that right to free speech doesn't eliminate Rush's or my right to free speech or CRITICISM of Ms. Fluke's repugnant position. We're simply saying that she has no right to DEMAND that someone else pay for her birth-control pills--especially a Catholic school that opposes such based on its religion--an equally important Constitutional right, by the way.
In other words, we're not saying she has no right to speak her opinion; we're just saying that her opinion is CRAP. That's exactly what it is--CRAP.
You are supporting her "Constitutional right" to demand that someone else give up their Constitutional right. In so doing, you also blast Rush Limbaugh for exercising HIS "right to free speech" even worse than we have criticized Ms. Fluke.
That is pure hypocrisy, MC--pure hypocrisy. You blast away at the people you disagree with, calling them the worst names in the book, but if we criticize someone we disagree with, we're "buling a case against her Constitutional rights". PFFFFFT!! This is the boldest hypocrisy I think I've ever seen.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
Limbaugh called her a slut. That's defamation and slander. The first amendment doesn't protect someones right to do that and you know it.
Suppose I went on the radio broadcasting to millions, and called someone close to you, someone that I don't even know much about, a slut....is that what freedom of speech defends? You're defending that, and you consider yourself a Conservative and a Christian?
God help us is all I have to say.
And I'm done. This is the last post for me in this "politics" section. I wish you well in your life, and I hope you get the hereafter you're entitled to.
Congratulations! While complaining about "slander and defamation", you just slandered and defamed me, not to mention Rush Limbaugh. You just went on a website with over 10,000 viewers and made worse slurs and more patently false charges against me--and against Rush Limbaugh--than Rush made against the woman. Aside from calling Rush a "fat POS" and wishing him dead, you just falsely accused me of doing something I have not done (defend Rush's name-calling) and challenging my Christian Faith. Bravo?
No, MC, I have NOT defended Rush for calling anyone a slut. Congratulations on another hypocritical attack. I have said multiple times here that I disagree with Rush calling people names and that it's wrong. I merely pointed out that (1) your complaint is hypocritical because you slurred Rush at least as bad he slurred Ms. Fluke, and (2)Ms. Fluke is an activist pawn of the Democratic Party with an absurd, Communistic demand that seeks to trample the Constitutional rights of others. You have put yourself out on a limb to defend that woman's godless campaign, and in the process, you've done the exact same thing you accused Rush of doing.
CON-GRAT-U-LA-TIONS.
You defend this woman's desire to trample on the Constitutional religious freedoms of Cathlolics while simultaneously demanding that the government force employers and colleges to pay for people's luxuries--mostly so they can have sex without having to worry about personal responsibility. You condoned her lies about $3,000 birth-control bills, as we all know that the pills cost about $5/mo. You condone the overplaying of the "medicinal purposes" and unaffordability ploys, while we know that the vast majority of people on the pill are not only using it for recreational-sex purposes, but can easily afford it.
As for you taking your ball and going home, do you realize how many times you've made that idle threat, only to come back? Do you realize that practically every time you can't "win" one of these Left-versus-Right political arguments, you get all mad like this? LOL. You need to watch a comedy movie or something.
If you can't handle this kind of disagreement, then don't engage. If you don't like name-calling and slander/defammation, then--just maybe--you should consider NOT calling people things like "fat POS" YOURSELF, and NOT falsely accusing others of things they haven't done. Just a suggestion. LOL. If you think it will bother me to not hear your far-Left reaches to justify everything the Socialists want to do, think again.
I don't hate you like you apparently hate people like me and Rush Limbaugh, though. Know that.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862 |
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Easy
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 9:56:00 PM
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| mcvlbound ,will be back! He will sneak back under a NOM DE GARE, because he will be ashamed to use his real screen name and get stepped on for it! Mark my words! |
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Mixed Nutz
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Posted - 03/07/2012 : 10:02:01 PM
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mcvlbound ,will be back! He will sneak back under a NOM DE GARE, because he will be ashamed to use his real screen name and get stepped on for it! Mark my words!
But won't be hard to recognize!!
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