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inshore fisherman
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Posted - 03/05/2012 :  8:23:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit inshore fisherman's Homepage Send inshore fisherman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hey guys im getting into filming fly fishig and making videos and taking pictures. i have a go pro and a little digital camera but i want to step it up. whats a good camera for that at a reasonable price?

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Posted - 03/05/2012 :  8:35:14 PM  Show Profile  Visit Optiker's Homepage Send Optiker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Look at the Nikon D3100. It's a lot of camera for a relatively good price. Takes hi def video too.
For video I use a Canon Vixia M41. Either option is comparably priced about $600 ish

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inshore fisherman
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Posted - 03/05/2012 :  8:40:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit inshore fisherman's Homepage Send inshore fisherman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thats exactly what im looking for i think pretty much with all these higher level cameras you can buy diffrent lenses for diffrent situations right?
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Look at the Nikon D3100. It's a lot of camera for a relatively good price. Takes hi def video too.
For video I use a Canon Vixia M41. Either option is comparably priced about $600 ish

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Posted - 03/05/2012 :  8:40:06 PM  Show Profile Send Rapchizzle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I got a Canon T2i after lots of consideration, research, deliberation, and musing over the technology that's offered out there. It's "last year's model" but is not terribly different than the T3i minus the rotating screen and a few minor features. I'm amazed with the capabilities of it taking still pictures and haven't even delved into the world of them fancy moving pictures yet. My old lady girl has a Nikon D3000 and it's a nice little camera and I believe the D3100 just has the ability to do video.





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inshore fisherman
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Posted - 03/05/2012 :  9:47:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit inshore fisherman's Homepage Send inshore fisherman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ill definitly look into those two camras i want a solid camera for tailing redfish pictures and decent video and stuff like that
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I got a Canon T2i after lots of consideration, research, deliberation, and musing over the technology that's offered out there. It's "last year's model" but is not terribly different than the T3i minus the rotating screen and a few minor features. I'm amazed with the capabilities of it taking still pictures and haven't even delved into the world of them fancy moving pictures yet. My old lady girl has a Nikon D3000 and it's a nice little camera and I believe the D3100 just has the ability to do video.





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Posted - 03/05/2012 :  10:25:55 PM  Show Profile Send cam a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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bgf
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  05:46:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit bgf's Homepage Send bgf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll second the t2i, have had mine for a month or so and I am still learning how to manipulate things, but the pictures are amazing.
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yakman72
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  07:16:35 AM  Show Profile Send yakman72 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hey i dont mean to hijack your thread, and i was about to start my own. i dont have a camera, and i want one to record my fishing ventures. everybody has a gopro, how much are they? and i want a camera for fishing and hunting pics, do you guys know of one for relativly cheap?

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inshore fisherman
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  07:44:53 AM  Show Profile  Visit inshore fisherman's Homepage Send inshore fisherman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
yakman its fine your not hijacking thread gopros are around 240-300 and are the best way to get started with simple video and pictures. you can take really good video and pictures close up and the fish eye lens makes an even cooler effect but thats as fas as it goes.
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hey i dont mean to hijack your thread, and i was about to start my own. i dont have a camera, and i want one to record my fishing ventures. everybody has a gopro, how much are they? and i want a camera for fishing and hunting pics, do you guys know of one for relativly cheap?

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Optiker
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  08:16:12 AM  Show Profile  Visit Optiker's Homepage Send Optiker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by inshore fisherman

thats exactly what im looking for i think pretty much with all these higher level cameras you can buy diffrent lenses for diffrent situations right?


Jr - Yes, that's right. My Nikon came in a package with a 55mm and 300mm lens and between the two thats all I will probably ever need. You can take stunningly good pics with it. The package was a little under $900 all in. As for the Canon, check out my Vimeo channel http://vimeo.com/user5664995 All the film trailers with Ralph Phillips "Fishing Charleston" were shot with it. I have been really impressed with this video camera's value. One more thing: I have this little Kodak Playsport video camera. Its waterproof, cheap and takes really, really good video in HD. The first two films posted on Vimeo were taken with the Kodak. Might be another worth checking out depending on your budget. Looking forward to seeing one of your films in the F3T in years to come!
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titan1
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  12:22:19 PM  Show Profile Send titan1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you buy a DSLR to shoot video, make sure it has auto focus in video mode or you will be sorry!

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inshore fisherman
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  4:37:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit inshore fisherman's Homepage Send inshore fisherman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thats exactly what i want to do when i grow up...have a video in f3t thats the most amazing thing ive seen...well it has been so farbut ill look at the video
quote:
Originally posted by Optiker

quote:
Originally posted by inshore fisherman

thats exactly what im looking for i think pretty much with all these higher level cameras you can buy diffrent lenses for diffrent situations right?


Jr - Yes, that's right. My Nikon came in a package with a 55mm and 300mm lens and between the two thats all I will probably ever need. You can take stunningly good pics with it. The package was a little under $900 all in. As for the Canon, check out my Vimeo channel http://vimeo.com/user5664995 All the film trailers with Ralph Phillips "Fishing Charleston" were shot with it. I have been really impressed with this video camera's value. One more thing: I have this little Kodak Playsport video camera. Its waterproof, cheap and takes really, really good video in HD. The first two films posted on Vimeo were taken with the Kodak. Might be another worth checking out depending on your budget. Looking forward to seeing one of your films in the F3T in years to come!
________________________
2000 SeaPro 180CC w/ Yammy 115 2 stroke
1966 13' Boston Whaler w/ Merc 25 4 stroke "Flatty"
www.sswaonline.com


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2000 SeaPro 180CC w/ Yammy 115 2 stroke
1966 13' Boston Whaler w/ Merc 25 4 stroke "Flatty"
www.sswaonline.com



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inshore fisherman
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  4:41:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit inshore fisherman's Homepage Send inshore fisherman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
did you film the fishing charleston?? also what canon was that taken with?
quote:
Originally posted by Optiker

quote:
Originally posted by inshore fisherman

thats exactly what im looking for i think pretty much with all these higher level cameras you can buy diffrent lenses for diffrent situations right?


Jr - Yes, that's right. My Nikon came in a package with a 55mm and 300mm lens and between the two thats all I will probably ever need. You can take stunningly good pics with it. The package was a little under $900 all in. As for the Canon, check out my Vimeo channel http://vimeo.com/user5664995 All the film trailers with Ralph Phillips "Fishing Charleston" were shot with it. I have been really impressed with this video camera's value. One more thing: I have this little Kodak Playsport video camera. Its waterproof, cheap and takes really, really good video in HD. The first two films posted on Vimeo were taken with the Kodak. Might be another worth checking out depending on your budget. Looking forward to seeing one of your films in the F3T in years to come!
________________________
2000 SeaPro 180CC w/ Yammy 115 2 stroke
1966 13' Boston Whaler w/ Merc 25 4 stroke "Flatty"
www.sswaonline.com


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2000 SeaPro 180CC w/ Yammy 115 2 stroke
1966 13' Boston Whaler w/ Merc 25 4 stroke "Flatty"
www.sswaonline.com



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Optiker
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  6:55:55 PM  Show Profile  Visit Optiker's Homepage Send Optiker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by inshore fisherman

did you film the fishing charleston?? also what canon was that taken with?


Yes, I filmed those using the Canon. Its a Vixia HFM41.

The quality of the F3T type films is going up real fast! Its all about how to get a WOW kind of shot or story. Something new and original. The stuff I have filmed is just footage set to music for now but we are in progress of making it awesome, by adding in Ralph's personality and storytelling.

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inshore fisherman
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  8:07:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit inshore fisherman's Homepage Send inshore fisherman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ya mainly what im starting to figure out is i want just the video mode when bringing a fish in the boat or letting is go...you know how they us e the "f stop" to just show the fish and soften the background? ya thats what im looking to do and of course take tons of cool shots.
quote:
Originally posted by Optiker

quote:
Originally posted by inshore fisherman

did you film the fishing charleston?? also what canon was that taken with?


Yes, I filmed those using the Canon. Its a Vixia HFM41.

The quality of the F3T type films is going up real fast! Its all about how to get a WOW kind of shot or story. Something new and original. The stuff I have filmed is just footage set to music for now but we are in progress of making it awesome, by adding in Ralph's personality and storytelling.

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1966 13' Boston Whaler w/ Merc 25 4 stroke "Flatty"
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inshore fisherman
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  8:30:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit inshore fisherman's Homepage Send inshore fisherman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://vimeo.com/6379574 look at this video from 6:50 to 7:15 can a dslr camera do these "f stop" effects where the fish is in focus while background is not? or are these multi thousand dollar camcorders?
quote:
Originally posted by Optiker

quote:
Originally posted by inshore fisherman

did you film the fishing charleston?? also what canon was that taken with?


Yes, I filmed those using the Canon. Its a Vixia HFM41.

The quality of the F3T type films is going up real fast! Its all about how to get a WOW kind of shot or story. Something new and original. The stuff I have filmed is just footage set to music for now but we are in progress of making it awesome, by adding in Ralph's personality and storytelling.

________________________
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1966 13' Boston Whaler w/ Merc 25 4 stroke "Flatty"
www.sswaonline.com



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Optiker
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  8:45:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit Optiker's Homepage Send Optiker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know what you mean... The Canon won't do that. The Nikon DSLR definitely will. As for the expensive camcorders, I haven't researched them because they were too far out of my budget, but I am thinking they will.

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inshore fisherman
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  9:07:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit inshore fisherman's Homepage Send inshore fisherman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
okay thanks! ya nikon seems to have a solid camera (d3100) because it has autofocus and manual focus on videos. what makes the canon not do the effect while the nikon can? and as for all the other cool effects do the lenses do most of that? such as fogging out or darkening edges. thanks sooo much for the help i really need it

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Optiker
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  09:29:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit Optiker's Homepage Send Optiker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Glad to help, Jr.... The Canon Vixia is a HD Camcorder, not a DSLR. The Canon DSLR's will be as good as the Nikon. You can't go wrong with either. I just happen to have the Nikon. For the short depth of field, this is done with a large aperture (F#), definitely a lens effect. The fogging, darkening effects, and especially color correction are done in "post" ie. with Photoshop (for stills) or your video editing software if it supports it. Vimeo has lots of great tips for shooting video with DSLR's. The one negative for the D3100 is that is does not have a jack for an external mic. You can use a separate mic such as a Zoom H4N and synch audio/video in post. This is what I do.

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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  10:00:17 AM  Show Profile Send titan1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Keep in mind it's not just your "F" stop. It has everything to do with the distance of your subject in relation to your lens and background.

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inshore fisherman
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Posted - 03/10/2012 :  5:57:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit inshore fisherman's Homepage Send inshore fisherman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thanks guys!!! im ready to get the camera and get some tailing pics!

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ionicswing
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Posted - 05/04/2012 :  10:42:39 PM  Show Profile Send ionicswing a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i got a nikon d5000 for xmas a year or two ago. Dont use it much, but would you guys take it on the water, if so do anything special to it, certain lense covers or anything else?
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Posted - 05/05/2012 :  8:26:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit 23Sailfish's Homepage Send 23Sailfish a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll jump in here only to offer some advice that I received when starting to look for my first big boy camera. If you have to choose, spend extra money on the lenses and not the body. You get a whole lot more out of your images with great glass than you would with a better camera body.

Other than that, you can't go wrong with nikon or canon. Both are darn close in quality/price for the entry level DSLR. Just know that canon lenses don't work on nikon or vice versa. For that reason, most people who start with one, stick with that one for the long term. So make your brand decision wisely.

Good luck. I shoot tails too, I typically use my canon 7d with 70-300mm F4. This lens is affordable and does great images for the price. The next 300mm up from that is a few thousand bucks...and I'm just not ready to invest that just yet.

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stonefly
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Posted - 05/11/2012 :  4:57:15 PM  Show Profile Send stonefly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I will throw in my 2c.

For Pics: Agree with 23Sail- don't go overboard on the body. Spend the extra bucks on good lenses. For my beater, I got a used Nikon D70 for less than $200, which will smoke a new high-level amateur camera like Nikon D7000 or Cannon t3i with a stock lens. Get a good zoom lens, but don't forget the prime lenses. For home and close range photos a $150 50mm f1.8 will take pics that look like an overpaid professional took.

For video: I don't know much about dedicated camcorders, but for taking video with your DSLR decide if you want 720 or 1080 to pick your body. You can get amazing video with a lens like I listed above that will give the "soft focus" background like you are looking for by adjusting the aperture. The lens above will let you do this at close range, vs a zoom where you have to move away, then zoom in to soften the background. You can also get crazy good night shots with bokah. I will disagree with the above and say that for great shots you do NOT want to autofocus- to control the shot, and eliminate constant motor noise from your audio. However, the limitation with DSLR video is image stability. You will need to use the tripod, or if in motion, consider a steadycam arm/mount for production quality.

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