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shevlin
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  09:19:31 AM  Show Profile Send shevlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
COLUMBIA, SC (TheBigSpur) - According to The Big Spur, linebacker Angelo Watley has been dismissed from school by the university.

Watley was indefinitely suspended from the football team following a late February arrest on charges that he broke into a house and stole more than $2,700 worth of goods.

The USC middle linebacker was charged with grand Larceny of goods that value more than $2,000 but less than $10,000. He was also charged with financial transaction card theft and violent burglary in the second degree.


Kid must have been a pretty crappy player otherwise he would have just been suspended.

Counting down to the towel rod comments...

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Fishb8
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  09:54:11 AM  Show Profile Send Fishb8 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good. I'm glad he is gone.




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shevlin
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  10:56:55 AM  Show Profile Send shevlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
at least it helps make room for another over-signed recruiting class.

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Fishb8
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  11:22:35 AM  Show Profile Send Fishb8 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have not heard of them over signing this year.




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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  12:02:53 PM  Show Profile  Send saltydog235 a Yahoo! Message Send saltydog235 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He's lucky the HO didn't put two in the chest and one in the head. He's geting off light in my opinion. POS no matter what team he represented.

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Fishb8
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  12:10:35 PM  Show Profile Send Fishb8 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
^^^^^what he said^^^^^


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ReelHunter
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Posted - 03/06/2012 :  3:05:28 PM  Show Profile Send ReelHunter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
prob the best thing that could have happened for the cocks
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shevlin
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  3:29:59 PM  Show Profile Send shevlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fishb8

I have not heard of them over signing this year.




your right Fish. For some reason I thought you took 30 or so this year, but that was last year.

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IM4USC
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  8:53:50 PM  Show Profile Send IM4USC a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wrong again, Carolina did not sign 30 or so last year. They sign no more than what the rules allow, every year.

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Fishb8
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  06:36:31 AM  Show Profile Send Fishb8 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Technically IM4USC is correct. But many schools over sign every year. Saban is criticized all the time for it.





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shevlin
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  09:57:04 AM  Show Profile Send shevlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Technically? Please clarify will ya? I guess I'm missing something.

It was not 30, USC signed 32 players in 2011. The SEC allowed 28 up until 2011 and now its down to 25.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/southcarolina/football/recruiting/commitments/2011

Fish - your right other schools do it. But mostly SEC schools and USC is on the list of frequent over signers.

The SEC receives most of the scorn for oversigning, but it isn't the only place where programs embrace the practice. In the past five years, 25 of the 120 FBS programs have averaged more than 25 signees a year. That list includes eight of the 12 SEC schools (Ole Miss, Auburn, Mississippi State, Arkansas, Kentucky, Alabama, LSU, South Carolina), half the Big 12's current 10-team membership (Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech) and six of Conference USA's 12 schools (Southern Miss, Tulsa, Houston, Marshall, UAB, UTEP).

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/01/24/oversigning/index.html#ixzz1oXMEBHjK

Spurrier staying classy...

In 2011, South Carolina, coached by Steve Spurrier, oversigned by several players. Both Oversigning.com[32] and Rivals.com[33] estimated South Carolina oversigned by 6 players when it signed 32 players in its 2011 class.[34] Additionally, on the day before National Signing Day, South Carolina rescinded offers to two other recruits that had verbally committed to signing with the school. One of the recruits, Lorenzo Mauldin, had been committed to the school for months[35] but learned he would not receive a scholarship offer when South Carolina faxed a notice of the rescinded offer to his high school on the day before Signing Day.[36] Walter Banks, the coach of Jordan Montgomery, the other recruit whose scholarship offer was pulled the day before National Signing Day, told The Wall Street Journal, "I told [South Carolina coaches] this was foul. I didn't have a clue until 18 hours before signing day, and if they say anything else, they're lying."[37] Banks also told The State that South Carolina coaches are "no longer welcome" at his high school (South Lake High School in Groveland, Florida) saying, "I cannot look a kid and their parent in the face and say you can trust what a University of South Carolina coach says."[38] Spurrier admitted to The Wall Street Journal that "what we probably could've done earlier in the recruiting is tell them that this could happen."[37] He later added, "I think on [Feb. 1] we alerted both of them, talked to them and said Hey, Im sorry. This is where we are. We got all these other commitments. We didnt like doing this.[38] In late March 2011, Mauldin signed with Louisville saying that he came to believe that South Carolina coaches really didn't want him to qualify anyway.[39]





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Edited by - shevlin on 03/08/2012 10:00:59 AM
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Fishb8
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  10:40:18 AM  Show Profile Send Fishb8 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I say technically because A school can not give more scholarships than they have. If you have 10 un-used scholarships then you can only give 10 scholarships.
But they play games with "signings".





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IM4USC
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  10:40:51 AM  Show Profile Send IM4USC a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In fact, Carolina signed the exact same number as the university of clemson, for 2011.

shevlin, my ill-informed friend, a commitment is not a signee.

Carolina and the university of clemson both signed 29 for 2011.

Edited by - IM4USC on 03/08/2012 10:46:52 AM
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Fishb8
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  10:44:34 AM  Show Profile Send Fishb8 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shevlin

Fish - your right other schools do it. But mostly SEC schools and USC is on the list of frequent over signers.

The SEC receives most of the scorn for oversigning, but it isn't the only place where programs embrace the practice. In the past five years, 25 of the 120 FBS programs have averaged more than 25 signees a year. That list includes eight of the 12 SEC schools (Ole Miss, Auburn, Mississippi State, Arkansas, Kentucky, Alabama, LSU, South Carolina), half the Big 12's current 10-team membership (Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech) and six of Conference USA's 12 schools (Southern Miss, Tulsa, Houston, Marshall, UAB, UTEP).



Mostly SEC? 8 out of 25 is not mostly. it's not even half. please......





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shevlin
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  11:03:48 AM  Show Profile Send shevlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fishb8

quote:
Originally posted by shevlin

Fish - your right other schools do it. But mostly SEC schools and USC is on the list of frequent over signers.

The SEC receives most of the scorn for oversigning, but it isn't the only place where programs embrace the practice. In the past five years, 25 of the 120 FBS programs have averaged more than 25 signees a year. That list includes eight of the 12 SEC schools (Ole Miss, Auburn, Mississippi State, Arkansas, Kentucky, Alabama, LSU, South Carolina), half the Big 12's current 10-team membership (Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech) and six of Conference USA's 12 schools (Southern Miss, Tulsa, Houston, Marshall, UAB, UTEP).



Mostly SEC? 8 out of 25 is not mostly. it's not even half. please......




8 out of 25 is 32%.....that's from ONE conference. There are 11 D1 conferences and 32% of the teams on that list are from the SEC.

75% of teams in the SEC are on this list.

So, yea, its by far the most.





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BesTimes
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  11:09:37 AM  Show Profile Send BesTimes a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok lets not go top 25 but top 10. Article from 2010. (7 out of 10 from SEC) May have changed last year.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/398115-the-10-worst-college-football-teams-for-oversigning-recruits#/articles/398115-the-10-worst-college-football-teams-for-oversigning-recruits/page/2

1. Alabama
2. Ole Miss
3. Auburn
4. Miss State
5. Arkansas
6. Kansas State
7. University of South Carolina
8. LSU
9. West Va
10. Iowa State
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shevlin
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  11:14:32 AM  Show Profile Send shevlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IM4USC

In fact, Carolina signed the exact same number as the university of clemson, for 2011.

shevlin, my ill-informed friend, a commitment is not a signee.

Carolina and the university of clemson both signed 29 for 2011.



You seem to be my counter ill-informed friend then IM4USC.

Going back to this link that says USC signed 32 players. Did you not click on it?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/southcarolina/football/recruiting/commitments/2011





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First Born
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  11:17:07 AM  Show Profile Send First Born a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pointless argument here. SEC pumpers will always play the "technical" card. Is it technically legal the way they pull it off...maybe. But morally?? But who needs morals. S-E-C, S-E-C, S-E-C. Congrats.
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Fishb8
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  11:32:56 AM  Show Profile Send Fishb8 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This has nothing to do with SEC vs anything.
Shevlin said
"But mostly SEC schools and USC is on the list of frequent over signers"
Then says
"8 out of 25 is 32%"

From the list MOST are not SEC. FACT. I was simply responding to the statements made by SHEVLIN. His statement was incorrect. FACT






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shevlin
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  11:40:13 AM  Show Profile Send shevlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fishb8

I say technically because A school can not give more scholarships than they have. If you have 10 un-used scholarships then you can only give 10 scholarships.
But they play games with "signings".




Yeah man, I understand that. IM4USC is not "technically" right. In 2011 USC signed 32 players which put them over the allowed 85, at the time.

And in turn things like this happen to get back in compliance before the freshman arrive...and this is from a USC fan website.

http://www.garnetandblackattack.com/2011/7/13/2274087/the-problem-with-oversigning-the-case-of-bryce-sherman

http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/2011/07/13/south-carolina-and-behind-the-scenes-stuff/

Pretty terrible if you ask me.....





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shevlin
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  11:45:27 AM  Show Profile Send shevlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fishb8

This has nothing to do with SEC vs anything.
Shevlin said
"But mostly SEC schools and USC is on the list of frequent over signers"
Then says
"8 out of 25 is 32%"

From the list MOST are not SEC. FACT. I was simply responding to the statements made by SHEVLIN. His statement was incorrect. FACT




LOL.

Look, I will go back and edit my post to say "25% more than the next conference with teams on the list" instead of "mostly".

And I will so go back and say that i was referring to it by percentages on the list by conference. Again, 1 conference out of 11 makes up 32% of the list.

Will that make you happy?

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Edited by - shevlin on 03/08/2012 11:48:14 AM
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First Born
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  11:47:53 AM  Show Profile Send First Born a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fishb8

This has nothing to do with SEC vs anything.



Agreed. Let's rephrase to include the non SEC schools who are guilty of this:

Pointless argument here. Schools that oversign will always play the "technical" card. Is it technically legal the way they pull it off...maybe. But morally?? But who needs morals.
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Fishb8
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  11:52:50 AM  Show Profile Send Fishb8 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
BTW, I hate the over signing crap. It is terrible. I can not imagine if were to happen to my kid. This crap crushes a kids dream and it needs to be stopped.





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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  11:57:45 AM  Show Profile Send Fishb8 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shevlin

quote:
Originally posted by Fishb8

I say technically because A school can not give more scholarships than they have. If you have 10 un-used scholarships then you can only give 10 scholarships.
But they play games with "signings".




Yeah man, I understand that. IM4USC is not "technically" right. In 2011 USC signed 32 players which put them over the allowed 85, at the time.

And in turn things like this happen to get back in compliance before the freshman arrive...and this is from a USC fan website.

http://www.garnetandblackattack.com/2011/7/13/2274087/the-problem-with-oversigning-the-case-of-bryce-sherman

http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/2011/07/13/south-carolina-and-behind-the-scenes-stuff/

Pretty terrible if you ask me.....



I agree with long term scholarships. Why not.





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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  1:00:06 PM  Show Profile  Send saltydog235 a Yahoo! Message Send saltydog235 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I thought this topic was about a POS getting the boot from the team by doing something that should have ended with him having worms in his eyeballs and fertilizing weeds.

Mark
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Posted - 03/08/2012 :  1:05:33 PM  Show Profile Send Fishb8 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
it was....until the author decided to turn it to a bash USC thread. Surprise!!!





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