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sternline
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 Posted - 03/22/2012 : 12:55:29 PM
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Hope the e-mail police are taking the day off.
Once in a while I get one of these chain mails that may be of more interest than reading 13 pages of squabbling between the few posters who are becoming ever more dominating on this forum.
"More stuff found in Bummer Care-
WHAT DOES THIS WORD MEAN?
Dhimmitude -- What does it mean?
Obama used it in the health care bill.
Now isn't this interesting? It was used in the health care law.
Every day there's another revelation of what Obama and his fellow Democrats are doing to our country.
Dhimmitude -- I had never heard the word until now. Type it into Google and start reading. Pretty interesting. It's on page 107 of the healthcare bill. I
looked this up on Google and yep, it exists.. It is a REAL word.
Word of the Day: Dhimmitude
Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting
conquered remnants to Islam.
ObamaCare allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia
Muslim diktat in the United States .. Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be "gambling", "risk-taking", and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this.
How convenient. So I, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including realestate, cattle, and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. Period. This is Dhimmitude.
Dhimmitude serves two purposes: It enriches the Muslim masters AND serves to drive conversions to Islam. In this case, the incentive to convert to Islam will be taken up by those in the inner-cities as well as the godless Generation X, Y, and Z types who have no moral anchor. If you don't believe in Christ to begin with, it is no problem whatsoever to sell Him for 30 pieces of silver.
"Sure, I'll be a Muslim if it means free health insurance and no taxes. Where do I sign, bro?"
I recommend sending this post to your contacts. This is desperately important and people need to know about it --quickly!
Does the American Public, even the Senators and Representatives really know what's in ObamaCare.
GOD BLESS AMERICA. IN GOD WE TRUST!
Dhimmitude"
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"Watch what we do,not what we say." John Mitchell
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Blue_Runner
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Posted - 03/22/2012 : 1:07:07 PM
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I don't know stern....At this point I'm leaning toward the 13 pages being more interesting than this fabricated chainmail.
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Edited by - Blue_Runner on 03/22/2012 1:14:32 PM |
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cataddict
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Posted - 03/22/2012 : 3:07:48 PM
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sternline
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Posted - 03/22/2012 : 4:31:02 PM
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Just a couple of things-
-Come on-"The Annenberg Public Policy Center"-give me break!
"In the case of an individual seeking exemption based on the individuals status as a member of an exempt religious sect or division, as a member of a health care sharing ministry, as an Indian, or as an individual eligible for a hardship exemption, such information as the Secretary shall prescribe." from page 107-just a matter of time before Bummer will tell Sibelius to exempt his pals.
-Some folks should check their grammar and spelling before posting and not hide behind the internet when they threaten people. cataddict is likely just another victim of the South Carolina educational system, probably a USC grad who majored in English.
"Watch what we do,not what we say." John Mitchell
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Fishb8
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Posted - 03/22/2012 : 5:46:58 PM
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Ease up on the sc education.
Fishb8 (Fish Bait)
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capntang
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Posted - 03/22/2012 : 9:27:42 PM
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Originally posted by sternline
Hope the e-mail police are taking the day off.
I find it most disappointing that so many folks seem to lack the ability to police information for themselves.
Did you read the chain email that you posted? Did you check "page 107 of the healthcare bill" to see if there was any truth to the email's claims?
I will refrain from posting a link to Snopes or FactCheck, even though I have yet to see any detractors of either site provide any actual evidence that such sites are factually wrong. I'll just post a link to the actual healthcare bill.
http://www.healthcare.gov/law/resources/authorities/patient-protection.pdf
The word "dhimmitude" does not appear anywhere. There are also no specific exemptions listed for muslims. In fact, the words "muslim" and "Islam" are completely absent from the text of the bill as well.
Do not interpret this as support for the bill. There is simply no excuse for basing an argument against it on blatantly false information. It detracts from the credibility of more legitimate arguments.
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Originally posted by sternline
-Some folks should check their grammar and spelling before posting and not hide behind the internet when they threaten people. cataddict is likely just another victim of the South Carolina educational system, probably a USC grad who majored in English.
I know this was not directed at me, but ... I have checked my grammar and spelling, and I am not "hiding behind the internet" (my name is in my profile). Then again, I am also not threatening you.
I was educated in South Carolina, though not at USC. Where were you educated, if you think it's relevant? |
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cataddict
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Posted - 03/22/2012 : 9:54:26 PM
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| I made a few grammatical errors, of course my 'wrongs' wasn't an error, I felt that it was the sort of grammar someone would use that posts drivel on the internet. The improper form it's/its I apologize for, oh guru of internet forums. Ironic that the same person afraid of the mail police is a member of the force as well, just in the grammar division. |
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sternline
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Posted - 03/24/2012 : 07:42:10 AM
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CT-I graduated from a university consistently ranked in the top 50 in the US.
According to Forbes, USC ranks 484.
Last time I checked SC was ranked as one of the worst states for education; 48th, 49th of 50?
cataddict-I must apologize. On further reading of your post, I see YOU were not threatening me but were only suggesting that "someone" should beat me with my keyboard.
"Watch what we do,not what we say." John Mitchell
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mhebbard
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Posted - 03/24/2012 : 08:19:06 AM
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So in all your years of college, no one taught you how to identify utter BS from fact, or think for yourself instead of regurgitating anything your buddies send you that appears to confirm some aspect of your political views?
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sternline
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Posted - 03/24/2012 : 08:58:54 AM
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Well, mh, are you absolutely sure the e-mail is all BS?
It seems to me almost every day we read or hear of some new horror contained in Bummercare.
It would not surprise me at all if the concept of "Dhimmitude" is buried somewhere in those 2,000 pages waiting to be activated if, as, and when Bummer is reelected.
BTY-I understand it may be difficult for you; but please try not to include personal insults in your future posts, such are much better said face to face. Besides, yours are not terribly original or interesting.
Ooops, almost forgot, there is a sentence error and a miss-spelling in your post.
Tut, tut, you made two mistakes in a ten word sentence; one of which would get you an "F" on any essay submitted to your Professor back in my day.
"Watch what we do,not what we say." John Mitchell
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Edited by - sternline on 03/24/2012 09:29:56 AM |
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mhebbard
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Posted - 03/24/2012 : 09:29:12 AM
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I am very sure that "dhimmitude" is a word that can be found on the internet, and that it is not contained in the healthcare law. I am also very sure that Islam does not explicitly prohibit health insurance as Blue Cross Blue Shield was not around when Mohammed was taking notes.
There is a very real constitutional challenge to the healthcare law which I think deserves our attention and study. It is currently on the docket at the US Supreme Court. I apologize if this reality is not terribly original or interesting to you, but to further discuss Islamic conspiracy theories and "hidden language" in a public and available document (provided above by cap'n tang) is simply an insult to intelligent discussion. While it is indeed entertaining fiction, perhaps it is better for a Grisham novel than for real debate.
It is human nature to identify things that confirm your world view and hold them at higher value than things that do not agree with your world view. This is called "confirmation bias" and has been studied very thoroughly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
So, with a natural predilection to validate things you agree with, you may often be unconsciously OKing things that are not, in fact, real or valid. This is why something that at first glance appears to you as valid seems so obviously ludicrous to people with other world views.
It is also why, despite the factcheck website and the actual healthcare law to search for the word dhimmitude above, you persist in your paranoid islamic conspiracy fantasy about the democrats and continue to believe that everything you get in an email from an unverified source is the gospel. See the section on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias#Persistence_of_discredited_beliefs |
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sternline
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Posted - 03/24/2012 : 09:50:01 AM
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I did not say the word is contained in the law. I said I would not be surprised if the concept is in there somewhere.
Yes, I am aware of the challenge to the law. Thank you for reminding me.
As far as intelligent discussion and debate is concerned, refer to my signature line-x10 for the Obama administration and the Democrats.
As far as I know, I do not suffer from paranoia any more than anybody else does in these times.
And, no I do not have a "paranoid islamic conspiracy fantasy". I must give you credit though;
your insults are improving!
"Watch what we do,not what we say." John Mitchell
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capntang
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Posted - 03/24/2012 : 2:14:54 PM
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Originally posted by sternline
CT-I graduated from a university consistently ranked in the top 50 in the US.
According to Forbes, USC ranks 484.
Last time I checked SC was ranked as one of the worst states for education; 48th, 49th of 50?
If that is the case, thank you for reaffirming the notion that a more expensive or prestigious education is not necessarily a better one. Education is no more or less than we choose to make of it. Even a "top 50" education can be ignored, and it appears to be far more likely to breed cocky overconfidence.
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Originally posted by sternline
Well, mh, are you absolutely sure the e-mail is all BS?
It seems to me almost every day we read or hear of some new horror contained in Bummercare.
It would not surprise me at all if the concept of "Dhimmitude" is buried somewhere in those 2,000 pages waiting to be activated if, as, and when Bummer is reelected.
Yes, it is all BS. The bill contains no provisions that are specifically applicable to any one faith, Islam included. In the two years since the bill was passed, no one has been able to produce any evidence that it contains provisions that would specifically benefit the Islamic faith.
This is a perfect example of a conspiracy theory. There is no evidence to support the claim that there is hidden language within the healthcare bill "waiting to be activated" in the future, yet people continue to propagate the idea simply because they like the sound of it.
When you originally posted the email, were you absolutely certain it was true, or had you neglected to give the bill even a cursory glance to verify the basic validity of the email's primary claim?
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Originally posted by sternline
BTY-I understand it may be difficult for you; but please try not to include personal insults in your future posts, such are much better said face to face. Besides, yours are not terribly original or interesting.
Does insulting an individual's education simply because they were educated in SC qualify as a personal insult?
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Originally posted by sternline
Ooops, almost forgot, there is a sentence error and a miss-spelling in your post.
Tut, tut, you made two mistakes in a ten word sentence; one of which would get you an "F" on any essay submitted to your Professor back in my day.
Would your professor have misspelled "miss-spelling" when he scribbled it in red ink at the top of that essay? |
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sternline
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Posted - 03/24/2012 : 5:09:28 PM
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-I take it you did not graduate from a "Top 50" university; so ,unless I am wrong and you did, how can you legitimately comment?
-I take it you an expert on the particular provisions of the full 2,000 pages of the bill, congratulations!
Given the "Star Chamber" like circumstances surrounding the bill's genesis and the never ending ongoing revelations regarding the bill and its contents, its cost etc.; it will take more than a post from an internet expert to convince me that we have seen all we will see on this matter.
-"a personal insult" If deserved, it was nothing more than a response to a physical threat.
-No, my bad I missed that one.
"Watch what we do,not what we say." John Mitchell
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Edited by - sternline on 03/24/2012 5:12:04 PM |
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Mixed Nutz
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Posted - 04/01/2012 : 09:50:24 AM
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I truly hope that this doesn't come off as "squabbling", or "dominating". But I too have fallen for some of the fake chain e-mails in the past. Captntang busted me on one a few weeks back, and RetiredPrincipal on another a year or so ago. However, without a "top 50" education, or much of a formal education at all,(Just ask Big Wes) I'm glad to see that by being duped like you, I'm in good company!!
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Edited by - Mixed Nutz on 04/01/2012 10:06:49 AM |
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Mixed Nutz
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 8:18:58 PM
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Come on Dude. No reply at all? As deliberate as you were with your with your topic, you can't muster a reply?
"top 50" education forgiven of course!
...Politicians aren't the "Oldest Profession", but the results are still the same!!! |
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sternline
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 07:52:36 AM
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No problem, MN. Thought this thread was done; so I "Unsubscribed" from it.
Just saw your replies this AM.
Yes, irrespective of our educational level; we all get duped at one time or another and not just on the internet!!
I remember a certain stockbroker who I caught "churning" my account years ago.
I still would like to catch that thief in a dark alley some night.
Also, think of all the highly educated folks who not only voted for the Bummer but who continue to support him!!
They are truly duped dupes!!
BTY-Did you see the Bum's anti capitalist rant the other day?
Boy, there is no doubt that he is a Commie.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1544085786001/president-blaming-capitalism-for-struggling-economy
"Watch what we do,not what we say." John Mitchell
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Edited by - sternline on 04/03/2012 08:23:45 AM |
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Mixed Nutz
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 8:34:18 PM
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I'm on your side Brother, and I fully agree with you!!! I just wasn't sure about the attacks on South Carolinian's as far as education goes? Furman University is right here in the Upstate, And has consistently ranked as one of the top Universities in our nation!
It looks that we agree that sometimes our passion for integrity and the truth clouds our better judgement!!
I'll look forward to your knowledgeable postings here, and wait for more of your intellect to rub off on me!
Thanks in advance!!
Seeya, Scott
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