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Fishing magician
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Posted - 03/23/2012 :  08:51:36 AM  Show Profile Send Fishing magician a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My question is about wave height if the buoy say it is a 4.3 wh is that from the bottom of the wave to the top of the wave or sea level up and whatever it may be under sea level for instance could that wave be 8.6 wh never really known the best way to check wave conditions it has never seamed to be what we expected according to the noah report.

skinneej
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Posted - 03/23/2012 :  09:09:58 AM  Show Profile Send skinneej a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/measdes.shtml

"Swell height is the vertical distance (meters) between any swell crest and the succeeding swell wave trough."
"Wind Wave Height is the vertical distance (meters) between any wind wave crest and the succeeding wind wave trough (independent of swell waves)."
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Fishing magician
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Posted - 03/23/2012 :  2:08:18 PM  Show Profile Send Fishing magician a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks that is what I thought but it never feels like that when your out there
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BlueFly
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Posted - 03/23/2012 :  2:09:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit BlueFly's Homepage Send BlueFly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I find the best way to determine the sea conditions is wave height and period...the period
is very important. 3-4' at 4 seconds is much worse than 3-4' at 9 or 10 seconds. Longer period waves allow you to run without pounding. Shorter period waves are being generated locally and are steeper and closer together. Unfortunately we usually have short period waves in the Chs area.
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jws
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Posted - 03/23/2012 :  2:21:18 PM  Show Profile Send jws a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Look at wind wave height as well. I think alot of people just look at the swell and period and think that its nice out there then find out that it isn't.
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Gut Wrench
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Posted - 03/23/2012 :  4:30:03 PM  Show Profile Send Gut Wrench a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i only look at wind wave anything bigger than 2ft and we are not going...
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DownandOut
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Posted - 03/23/2012 :  5:35:45 PM  Show Profile Send DownandOut a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gut, you gett'n soft in your old age!!

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skinneej
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Posted - 03/23/2012 :  5:55:41 PM  Show Profile Send skinneej a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Don't forget that most people have never taken a yardstick to a wave before. I've seen a lot of newbies get their ass handed to them in a steep 3-4' and talk about the "6 to 8's" when they got back to the dock... I would bet that 50% or more of the people on this website would really suck at estimating true wave height and wave intervals...

Also, people don't understand that they buoy is not some magical measurement of the entire Atlantic Seaboard. It's 41nm east of Charleston kind of out towards the SW banks. Ocean condtions can vary quite a bit even just 5-10 miles away. Also, in the summer, it's not uncommon to be in the neighborhood of small pockets of storms and such that can really steepen up the seas in their area where it could be flat calm just a few miles away... Also don't forget the impact of the actual gulfstream. It can get pretty hairy out there when the wind opposes the current, but be perfectly nice at the bouy...

Edited by - skinneej on 03/23/2012 5:56:45 PM
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Reelly Old
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Posted - 03/23/2012 :  6:34:49 PM  Show Profile Send Reelly Old a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/measdes.shtml should tell you all you want to know about buoy data ...

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