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SirSpear
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Mixed Nutz
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 Posted - 03/27/2012 : 10:28:55 PM
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Are we falling prey to having a CWP? Does that make us "feel" better? I know, and can hardly wait for Big Wes to chime in, but I do carry a pistol on my person,(without a CWP) just like the U.S. Constitution affords me to do lawfully. I'd rather carry a firearm, and not need it, than wish that I had it!!
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JimIslander
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Posted - 03/28/2012 : 08:05:45 AM
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Originally posted by Mixed Nutz
...but I do carry a pistol on my person,(without a CWP) just like the U.S. Constitution affords me to do lawfully.
When you say you carry "on your person", are you saying here in a public forum that you conceal carry without a permit?
Tidewater 196DC
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Black Bart
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Posted - 03/28/2012 : 09:08:39 AM
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as always- it's only racial if it's white against black. just the point i was trying to make.
there are thousands and thousands of cases of black on white crime that were never considered racial or hate crimes- even if the perp said "give me all your money whitey, honkey, cracker" etc.etc.etc.
this case should not be about race at all- it should be about facts and evidence.
if the shooter was on edge due to racial profiling and previous criminals wearing hoodies- it's understandable and correct. just like it's understandable and correct for americans to be suspicious of dark skinned people wearing turbans and shouting allah akabar as they board an airplane.
OUR GOVERNMENT HAS BECOME THE ENEMY OF FREEDOM.
You're absolutely correct, BH.
Statistics prove that blacks commit murders at a far higher rate than any other race despite comprising only 13% of the population. Furthermore, a large percentage of these murders are committed against other blacks.
I always find it very telling when the "black leaders" come out of the woodwork (in their $2,000 suits, no less) when there's an issue that may possible involve racism but are nowhere to be found when it comes to resolving real issues. As a black person (not an African-American, Afro-American, person of color, or any of those other bulljive titles-I'm a Lowcountry boy  ), I find it personally insulting when it's assumed that "Reverend" Jacka$$ (well-known extortionist and poverty pimp), "Reverend" Sharpton (how's that MSNBC gig going, by the way?), Michael Eric Dyson (who's currently a professor at Georgetown after previously holding the same position at Penn), and all the other black racists speak for me. It's ironic that their arrogance prevents them from seeing how their presence trivializes, rather than helps to resolve these issues.
My mother always taught me to first look inward and address any issues or shortcomings I can resolve on my own. When mainstream black culture (meaning those who espouse the views of those previously mentioned) stops worrying about our "racist society" and how "the white man holds them down" and starts addressing the real issues at hand (i.e. crime, (c)rap music, the 70% illegitimacy rate), black folks, and our country as a whole, will take a big turn in the right direction, and many of the "injustices" they perceive will magically disappear. |
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SirSpear
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Posted - 03/28/2012 : 1:27:13 PM
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Originally posted by Mixed Nutz
Are we falling prey to having a CWP? Does that make us "feel" better? I know, and can hardly wait for Big Wes to chime in, but I do carry a pistol on my person,(without a CWP) just like the U.S. Constitution affords me to do lawfully. I'd rather carry a firearm, and not need it, than wish that I had it!!
...Politicians aren't the "Oldest Profession", but the results are still the same!!!
I'd brush up on your constitutional law before you get yourself into trouble that you could easily avoid by getting a permit. Just my unsolicited advice, feel free to ignore it. |
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saltydog235
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Posted - 03/28/2012 : 1:55:23 PM
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Originally posted by SirSpear
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Originally posted by Mixed Nutz
Are we falling prey to having a CWP? Does that make us "feel" better? I know, and can hardly wait for Big Wes to chime in, but I do carry a pistol on my person,(without a CWP) just like the U.S. Constitution affords me to do lawfully. I'd rather carry a firearm, and not need it, than wish that I had it!!
...Politicians aren't the "Oldest Profession", but the results are still the same!!!
I'd brush up on your constitutional law before you get yourself into trouble that you could easily avoid by getting a permit. Just my unsolicited advice, feel free to ignore it.
Nowhere in the Constitution or specifically the 2nd Amendment is language concerning a CWP. Regulation of Concealed or Open Carry laws are controled by the State, County and Municipality orders. Proponents of the 2nd Amendment contend that if it is the Supreme Law of the Land, then by its wording alone they have the right to carry. Honestly I cannot say from its literal wording that they don't have that right.
However, its my personal opinion that anyone who boasts about having a CWP or carries without one openly is an idiot. Advertising it doesn't make you any less of a target, in fact it puts a target on your back, which is where you're going to get shot right before your weapon is stolen. The truth of the matter is that 99.9999% of the time if you don't put yourself in a position to need it, you never will need it. Maybe I carry, maybe I don't but I sure as hell am not telling anyone.
Mark
Mako 262 Twin Yammaha F200s
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid" John Wayne
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SirSpear
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Posted - 03/28/2012 : 2:03:16 PM
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Originally posted by saltydog235
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Originally posted by SirSpear
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Originally posted by Mixed Nutz
Are we falling prey to having a CWP? Does that make us "feel" better? I know, and can hardly wait for Big Wes to chime in, but I do carry a pistol on my person,(without a CWP) just like the U.S. Constitution affords me to do lawfully. I'd rather carry a firearm, and not need it, than wish that I had it!!
...Politicians aren't the "Oldest Profession", but the results are still the same!!!
I'd brush up on your constitutional law before you get yourself into trouble that you could easily avoid by getting a permit. Just my unsolicited advice, feel free to ignore it.
Nowhere in the Constitution or specifically the 2nd Amendment is language concerning a CWP. Regulation of Concealed or Open Carry laws are controled by the State, County and Municipality orders. Proponents of the 2nd Amendment contend that if it is the Supreme Law of the Land, then by its wording alone they have the right to carry. Honestly I cannot say from its literal wording that they don't have that right.
However, its my personal opinion that anyone who boasts about having a CWP or carries without one openly is an idiot. Advertising it doesn't make you any less of a target, in fact it puts a target on your back, which is where you're going to get shot right before your weapon is stolen. The truth of the matter is that 99.9999% of the time if you don't put yourself in a position to need it, you never will need it. Maybe I carry, maybe I don't but I sure as hell am not telling anyone.
Mark
Mako 262 Twin Yammaha F200s
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid" John Wayne
I agree with everything you said. The one thing I would add is that while you might have some argument about a literal reading of the second amendment, plenty of courts have upheld CWP laws. So while everyone is entitled to their own opinion, a person can save themselves a lot of trouble just by following a few rules (even if they philosphically disagree with them). |
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Mixed Nutz
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Posted - 03/28/2012 : 9:57:00 PM
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Originally posted by JimIslander
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Originally posted by Mixed Nutz
...but I do carry a pistol on my person,(without a CWP) just like the U.S. Constitution affords me to do lawfully.
When you say you carry "on your person", are you saying here in a public forum that you conceal carry without a permit?
Tidewater 196DC
Yamaha F115
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Pungo 120
I've taken the South Carolina CWP class twice, just to be sure that I do understand the laws and repercussions of carrying a firearm legally here in the state.
Why, and moreover, who are you to ask?
...Politicians aren't the "Oldest Profession", but the results are still the same!!! |
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/29/2012 : 07:35:33 AM
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Originally posted by on a fishin mission
Actually I was wrong in saying the attack on Cater was a hate crime since SC doesn't have a hate crime law. A bill was introduced in mid 2011 but I am not sure if it passed or not. There was evidence based on racial slurs made towards the other 4 people that they tried to rob but without a law they could not prosecute.
In other words, Bad Habit was right all along, and you were wrong. So, once again, your proud, cutting comment toward your opponent folds back on itself, and YOU are the one who's "0 for 3 on your assumptions there".
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/29/2012 : 07:53:32 AM
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There are a few very big problems here.
First, people are jumping to the conclusion that Zimmerman committed a crime, when it may have been the "victim" who committed a crime.
Second, people are jumping to the conclusion that the alleged crime was motivated by racial "hate" simply because one guy said "f-ing coon".
Those two make me want to point out to everyone that YOU might be the next guy who is being decalred guilty without a trial--YOU! How would you like to be Zimmerman. You might not carry a gun, but not long ago, it was a homeowner in his own home, who shot a black intruder INSIDE his house, and I remember the same "hate crimes" chants being used. We've all seen how the black community automatically defends its criminals and claims racial inequity when a black thug is taken down. They TYPICALLY try to make the cops or the self-defending "white man" out to be the villain, completely ignoring the conduct of the black man.
Guys, we even have MEMBERS OF CONGRESS publicly declaring Zimmerman guilty, and calling for harsh measures, WITHOUT A TRIAL. We've got the Black Panthers putting a "bounty" on Zimmerman.
Third, what about the racial epithets being used by the ones calling FOR the hate-crimes prosecution? Are they not guilty of hate and racism?
Fourth, people are ignoring the fact that 50% of the murders in this country are black men, and 90% of THOSE are perpetrated BY blacks.
Fifth, Bad Habit is RIGHT in saying that blacks assault whites every day, and using racial epithets in the process, and it is highly, HIGHLY unlikely that the criminals in Columbia didn't let some fly, but that never seems to matter. Let someone say "fried chicken" and people call for the sky to fall. It's ridiculous, dangerous, insane, and wrong.
I think it is INSANELY DANGEROUS for a nation to pass laws that ramp up the punishment as a special sort of "hate crime" if someone happens to SAY the wrong thing during a "crime", especially when that "crime" isn't even proven.
Those of you calling for a "hate crime" prosecution on Zimmerman might just be on the other end of that charge one day--if you're white, that is. Just because some scared, angry guy used a racial epithet, that doesn't mean that he was "motivated" to KILL black people anymore than OnAFishinMission is motivated to kill Rush Limbaugh. From the likes of Jessie Jackson to the President's own pastor, to the black kids that went to my high school, black people slur whites REGULARLY WITHOUT SHAME. Don't even TRY to tell me that they don't slur white people regularly when they assault them.
Let me ask you something. Jessie Jackson has used some pretty nasty ethno-religious epithets toward Jews. So, if he ever gets into a fight with one and punches him in his "bagel-eatin" nose, will that be a "hate crime"? Don't count on it.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
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Edited by - gotchacovered on 03/29/2012 08:03:05 AM |
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JimIslander
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Posted - 03/29/2012 : 08:22:17 AM
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Originally posted by Mixed Nutz
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Originally posted by JimIslander
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Originally posted by Mixed Nutz
...but I do carry a pistol on my person,(without a CWP) just like the U.S. Constitution affords me to do lawfully.
When you say you carry "on your person", are you saying here in a public forum that you conceal carry without a permit?
Tidewater 196DC
Yamaha F115
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Pungo 120
I've taken the South Carolina CWP class twice, just to be sure that I do understand the laws and repercussions of carrying a firearm legally here in the state.
Why, and moreover, who are you to ask?
Mixed,
I'm not accusing you of doing anything illegal, and I apologize if it sounded that way.
Like many readers of this forum, both members and guests, I am a curious person. Thousands of people outside our forum read your post. Your post carried with it a confusing message. When someone in SC carries "on their person", that is different from, say, carrying "near" your person (in the console of your car, for example). I was curious whether you carried on your person legally based on state law, or if you were saying that the 2nd Amendment was your legal authority and you were ignoring state law. It was a question for clarity and not an accusation. The part about this being a public forum was in reference to the seriousness of the topic and it being discussed in a public forum.
There are only a few ways to legally carry "on your person" in South Carolina. First, you can essentially carry any way you want on your own property or legal residence (open or concealed). With few exceptions, the same is true in your business (need PERMIT and permission if you aren't the controlling authority, etc.).
If coming or going to or from hunting or fishing, and you have a hunting/fishing license, you can open carry. You can open carry if you are coming to or from a shooting club or gun collecting club. But you cannot carry in any other place "on your person" concealed without a CWP.
Are those the conditions you were talking about? If so, they have nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment, which lead to the confusion regarding your post.
Since you posted this to an open forum, I'm asking for clarification of what you meant. |
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sweetpea
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Posted - 03/29/2012 : 12:44:21 PM
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Hispanic guy shoots a black 17 year old - all the facts are not yet known (not even close) - and the national media is all over it - Jesse, Al and the extortionists are out in full force - the same-predictable liberals are whing about racism blah blah blah. -- the worst part The Pres. of the US chimes in with his stupidity 'Trayvon would look like ky son if I had one' -- he is obviously trying to gain some short term political gain from this kids death.
Compare that to:
Black 17 year old murders two white Brits - all the facts are known via the court proceedings (including the murderers words of "who are those two crackers walking accross the park" - Jesse and Al and all the otehr predictable-libs are SILENT -
It's a fair question to ask the idiotic President, since he opened the door: would his son look like Shawn Tyson if he had one?
http://www.mysuncoast.com/news/local/story/Key-witnesses-take-the-stand-in-Shawn-Tyson-trial/7YOwfo8-s0KDaPukoELf2A.cspx
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Mixed Nutz
Senior Member
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Posted - 03/29/2012 : 7:49:41 PM
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Originally posted by JimIslander
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Originally posted by Mixed Nutz
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Originally posted by JimIslander
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Originally posted by Mixed Nutz
...but I do carry a pistol on my person,(without a CWP) just like the U.S. Constitution affords me to do lawfully.
When you say you carry "on your person", are you saying here in a public forum that you conceal carry without a permit?
Tidewater 196DC
Yamaha F115
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Pungo 120
I've taken the South Carolina CWP class twice, just to be sure that I do understand the laws and repercussions of carrying a firearm legally here in the state.
Why, and moreover, who are you to ask?
Mixed,
I'm not accusing you of doing anything illegal, and I apologize if it sounded that way.
Like many readers of this forum, both members and guests, I am a curious person. Thousands of people outside our forum read your post. Your post carried with it a confusing message. When someone in SC carries "on their person", that is different from, say, carrying "near" your person (in the console of your car, for example). I was curious whether you carried on your person legally based on state law, or if you were saying that the 2nd Amendment was your legal authority and you were ignoring state law. It was a question for clarity and not an accusation. The part about this being a public forum was in reference to the seriousness of the topic and it being discussed in a public forum.
There are only a few ways to legally carry "on your person" in South Carolina. First, you can essentially carry any way you want on your own property or legal residence (open or concealed). With few exceptions, the same is true in your business (need PERMIT and permission if you aren't the controlling authority, etc.).
If coming or going to or from hunting or fishing, and you have a hunting/fishing license, you can open carry. You can open carry if you are coming to or from a shooting club or gun collecting club. But you cannot carry in any other place "on your person" concealed without a CWP.
Are those the conditions you were talking about? If so, they have nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment, which lead to the confusion regarding your post.
Since you posted this to an open forum, I'm asking for clarification of what you meant.
Looks like you got it, and we agree!!
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sweetpea
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/30/2012 : 5:48:40 PM
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It's real. Thanks for posting.
Now, everyone, read the news article cited in Sweetpea's link, and tell me what one thing is significantly different between it and the articles about Zimmerman. I'll give a hint. Look for how many times the race of the gunmen or the targets was mentioned.
Aside from that, did Rep. Rush ever denounce his Panther days, or is a non-repentant former member of the Black Panthers the right person to be preaching against racial violence? Maybe the Republicans could put David Duke up there to tell the blacks how wrong racism is next, or maybe Bill Ayers should address terrorism. This is like living in a science-fiction novel.
Gotcha Covered,
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Edited by - gotchacovered on 03/30/2012 5:54:35 PM |
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Fred67
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 2:26:27 PM
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From what I have read this should be a hate crime as well as he reportedly said racial slurs and used racially suggestive language.
Looks like you're 0-3 there with your assumptions.
"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson
So what was the racial slur???? I've listened to it over and over with background noise removed. I can almost make out hoodlum?
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on a fishin mission
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 4:06:12 PM
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AP is reporting that charges will be filed and Zimmerman will be arrested. Press conference scheduled at 6 today.
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 5:49:50 PM
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Let's just hope it's because the authorities have actual evidence of Zimmerman's guilt, rather than it just being because they are caving in to the pressure from the likes of Al Sharpton, Fredrica Wilson, and the Black Panthers. At this point, it's anyone's guess.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 5:54:54 PM
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Oh, by the way, from what I understand, it's a "special prosecutor" who is having him arrested. Apparently, all black people have to do if anyone fires fights back when they attack someone is get their race-baiters to jump up and down on TV, and a "special prosecutor" will be assigned, and the "light-skinned" opponent will be charged with a crime, even though there is no real evidence of a crime and the only eye-witness agrees that the "light-skinned" man was acting in self-defense? Do black criminals ever get hauled in by "special prosecutors" when they shoot white people, or are those reserved for people who shoot black criminals? I'm just wondering.
Don't get me wrong. Trayvon may, indeed, be an innocent victim. It sure seems like the arrest of Zimmerman is based more on the cries of the race-baiters than on evidence, though.
Also, can anyone tell me why the media keeps showing virtual baby pictures of Trayvon from years ago instead of the most recent pictures of him? Maybe if I post both side by side, you can figure it out. Here, see if you can see why they would do that.
Here are the ones they keep showing us--pictures from about 3 years ago, when Trayvon was about 14. They use another one from his 14-year-old days, too, where he looks equally sweet and innocent.
Now, here are the most recent pictures of him, sporting his Twitter ID of "No_Limit_Nigga", a gold teeth, tats, F&^%$ you gestures, and boating of of assaulting a bus driver.
Not quite as cute and cuddly, eh? By the way, he's 6'2" tall and was allegedly suspended from school thrice--once for being caught at school with a screw driver and a bag of women's jewelry on him. His aliby? "They're not mine." So say the allegations, anyway.
OK, please do NOT jump to the conclusion that he's the guilty party here just because of some ugly pictures and tats. I would not suggest that or do that. No. Just tell me why the media might show us the cute, cuddly, almost-white-boy pictures from his 14th year instead of showing us the tats, the gold teeth, the middle finger, and telling us of how he smoked dope, painted graffiti, and bragged about punching bus drivers. Now, whhhhhyyyyyyyy would someone do that?
Anyone?
Look, guys, if Zimmerman did shoot that guy in cold blood, then I hope he must be prosecuted like he should be. Justice should not even SEE a man's race. Justice must be equal, but how can it be equal when every time a black man is involved, the black community rallies to his side, regardless of whether he's guilty or innocent? It just really bothers me that half the country has JUMPED to the conclusion that he's guilty, based on little more than the claims of race baiting rhetoric. Mob rule is prevailing. How can you be sure you won't be the victim of the same kind of "special prosecutor" one day when you're defending yourself from a thug?
EVERYONE, on BOTH sides, should be hoping that JUSTICE prevails, NOT just jumping to the conclusion that EITHER party is the guilty one.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
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Edited by - gotchacovered on 04/11/2012 6:39:37 PM |
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on a fishin mission
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 6:20:50 PM
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Originally posted by gotchacovered
Let's just hope it's because the authorities have actual evidence of Zimmerman's guilt, rather than it just being because they are caving in to the pressure from the likes of Al Sharpton, Fredrica Wilson, and the Black Panthers. At this point, it's anyone's guess.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862
I agree Gotcha
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Mandopickr
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 6:37:27 PM
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| Certainly thought the press conference was very one-sided, and very political. I mean is "justice for Trayvon Martin" the same as "justice". Is prayers for Trayvon Martin since he is the victim" implying that Zimmerman wasn't a victim. |
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 6:45:58 PM
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Bingo, Mandopickr. That's exactly what I'm saying. People have already concluded Zimmerman guilty and Trayvon innocent without knowing enough to even have a clue what happened. In fact, many of them concluded Zimmerman guilty from day one, as soon as they saw the pictures. That's where the racism is. How can a guy like Zimmerman even hope to have a fair trial with all this going on? Virtually any jury has already been tainted and biased by this point. It's not justice they seek. Justice is making a judgment based on pure evidence. They seek revenge, not justice. They remind me of a bunch of white cowboys from a Western movie, gathered around a black man, ready to lynch him because he killed a white man--no real knowledge of what happened, other than skin color. If Zimmerman had been black, it would all be of no consequence--except for the fact that the shooter had a CWP. That part might still be exploited by the anti-gun crowd. Now, we can watch as the white(ish) man pays for the sins of George Washington--that is, if he survives jail. If a black man shanks him in prison, who among us would place money on the bet that the black community won't be calling for "justice" then? Who would rather wager that they'll call the shanking of Zimmerman, itself, an act of justice?
The black leaders and groups are doing to Zimmerman the EXACT THING they say the white man is doing to them.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
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Edited by - gotchacovered on 04/11/2012 6:55:35 PM |
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on a fishin mission
Senior Member
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 7:05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Mandopickr
Certainly thought the press conference was very one-sided, and very political. I mean is "justice for Trayvon Martin" the same as "justice". Is prayers for Trayvon Martin since he is the victim" implying that Zimmerman wasn't a victim.
It's supposed to be one sided, they were announcing an arrest.
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 7:16:53 PM
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Just to be clear, I'm not saying that Trayvon deserved to be shot or that Zimmerman is innocent. Not at all. I'm also not saying that Zimmerman shouldn't be arrested or tried. I'm just saying that I don't know if he's guilty of murder or honestly shot the guy in the heat of a fight where he was being beaten into the dirt, and neither do all the people who have already made up their minds what "justice" should be executed. There's definitely some evidence that makes Zimmerman look guilty, but there's also some evidence that makes Trayvon look guilty. It's a tough case, and there's no just reason to think that the cops were just being racists when they didn't arrest Zimmerman. I just hope none of us ever have to shoot anyone in self-defense, but if the shot assailant happens to be a black man, I think we all know that any of us who are white will be facing immediate calls for murder charges coming from the black leaders, regardless of the circumstances. Their decision is generally made before the crime even happens, and that's the scary part.
Also, what happens if Zimmerman is found not guilty by a jury? Does anyone here believe the black leaders will drop it and say, "Justice was done", or do you expect more protests, Race riots, and Zimmerman laying in a ditch? I think you can bank on at least two of those three. It's obvious that they aren't really just demanding an arrest and a trial, but a convition. That's where the insanity is--in a mob demanding a conviction.
I hope justice somehow prevails in this case, and if Zimmerman is guilty, so be it, but it would be so nice to see more people interested in actual justice instead of racial retribution all the time.
Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
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Edited by - gotchacovered on 04/11/2012 7:22:20 PM |
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on a fishin mission
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Posted - 04/11/2012 : 7:18:09 PM
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It sure seems like the arrest of Zimmerman is based more on the cries of the race-baiters than on evidence, though.
The first evidence was that he disobeyed a police dispatcher and an unarmed young man ended up dead. I am no expert but though he should have been charged with manslaughter then.
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Self-Def Rights Under Attack in SC; Write Your Rep
