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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/29/2012 : 2:54:23 PM
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What's up with him bypassing Congress now to give $1.3 billion to the Muslim brotherhood regime in Egypt? I haven't been reading the news much lately. Lots on my mind. Someone, please, tell me this isn't true.
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jstrange
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Posted - 03/29/2012 : 6:48:12 PM
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A simple tactic of having so many mind blowing things going on at the same time, a couple are sure to get through.
Umm, you gonna eat that?
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blue_earth
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Posted - 03/30/2012 : 09:40:36 AM
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Why do you HATE muslims, Lee?
Religion allows perfectly decent and sane poeple to believe by the billions what only luntaics could believe on their own. |
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hhi angler
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Posted - 03/30/2012 : 10:14:02 AM
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| He is also giving a bundle to Tunisia. I guess they are a new best friend in N.Africa or not. |
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/30/2012 : 10:35:33 AM
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quote: Originally posted by blue_earth
Why do you HATE muslims, Lee?
Religion allows perfectly decent and sane poeple to believe by the billions what only luntaics could believe on their own.
I don't hate 'em. I just think it's wrong to fund people who hate Americans, Jews, advance fanatical terrorism, and want to take over the world through the caliphate and jihad. Maybe, I just think giving money to the enemy is not the wisest defense plan in the war on terror.
Based on your question, the real question might be, why do you hate me? Ah, but you may have already answered that question.
"Religion allows perfectly decent and sane poeple to believe by the billions what only luntaics could believe on their own."
Indeed, talk of wormholes and wireless fax machines would have gotten you thrown into a straight jacket in times past. Now, just think of what other amazing discoveries might be revealed as we continue to learn about the infinite, and infinitely ancient Universe. In the mean time, one would do well to reserve his arrogance about what he doesn't know and make friends with humility, lest he suddenly discover that he has fallen unexpectedly into the hands of a higher power, which, like such things as "dark matter", he had formerly not known to exist. A true scientist keeps his eyes open to all possibilities without prejudicing himself against any. One who begins his quest for answers with the preconception that God does not exist is an apostate from science and a priest of his own sort of religion.
By the way, who's the lunatic: the guy who thinks we should give a billion dollars to a fanatical, religious terrorist group bent on world domination for their religion, or a guy who opposes it? You might want to ponder that one a little.
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Edited by - gotchacovered on 03/30/2012 10:48:46 AM |
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hhi angler
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Posted - 03/30/2012 : 11:13:27 AM
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| It would appear that the Muslims seem to make it quite clear on a regular bases they don't care about any other religions except to destroy them and there followers and they seem hell bent to accomplish that end. Wonder why law enforcement are alway arresting individuals who are plotting terrorist attacks express a strong Muslim belief? What did that POS US Army MD shout before firing? |
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SirSpear
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Posted - 03/30/2012 : 4:10:47 PM
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quote: Originally posted by hhi angler
It would appear that the Muslims seem to make it quite clear on a regular bases they don't care about any other religions except to destroy them and there followers and they seem hell bent to accomplish that end. Wonder why law enforcement are alway arresting individuals who are plotting terrorist attacks express a strong Muslim belief? What did that POS US Army MD shout before firing?
Seriously. I have never heard of law enforcement arresting any non-Muslim terrorists. Just doesn't happen. |
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jipride
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Posted - 03/30/2012 : 4:59:25 PM
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Timothy Mcveigh 1995, Ted Kaczynski 1996, Robert Chambliss 1977, Thomas Blanton 2001. Just a few recent non-Muslims arrested and prosecuted for terrorism.
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 03/30/2012 : 5:38:27 PM
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"Seriously. I have never heard of law enforcement arresting any non-Muslim terrorists. Just doesn't happen" -- SirSpear
"Timothy Mcveigh 1995, Ted Kaczynski 1996, Robert Chambliss 1977, Thomas Blanton 2001. Just a few recent non-Muslims arrested and prosecuted for terrorism." -- Jipride
Guys, let me know when the President of the United States gives those non-Muslim terrorists 1.3 billion dollars for their cause, and then I'll make a post about that, too. Until then, thanks for participating, but posting things actually relevant to the topic would be more valuable. We all know there are non-Muslim terrorists. The President isn't giving those non-Muslims 1.5 billion dollars, though. He is giving it to the Muslim Brotherhood, who proudly proclaim "Jihad is our way" within their motto.
Then, there's the issue of bypassing Congress. I was objecting to that on the basis that, uhm, Congress is there for a reason, and we had this thing called, "separation of powers", and, you know, stuff like that. I guess after he does it 40 times without any reprecussions, it will just no longer be deemed illegal?
Seriously, y'all don't have any problems with the President's conduct?
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hhi angler
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Posted - 03/31/2012 : 09:24:52 AM
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on a fishin mission
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 09:50:14 AM
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It is my understanding that the adeministration is not by-passing congress. Congress approved the fundings with conditions and it was up to the State department to determine when those conditions were met.
WASHINGTON U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) today made this statement on reports Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has waived new congressional restrictions on $1.3 billion in military aid to Egypt.
I support Secretary Clintons decision to release previously appropriated funds to the Egyptian military. The Egyptians must understand this is not a blank check and we will continue to insist their government show progress on democratic reforms and protection of religious minorities.
While recent developments in Egypt are unnerving, to say the least, I do believe it is in our national security interests to provide assistance to the Egyptian military. The United States military has a close working relationship with their Egyptian counterparts. These relationships proved to be invaluable and have been a stabilizing influence during these troubling and uncertain times in Egypt.
I know the decision to waive the conditions placed on funding by Secretary Clinton was difficult. But I do believe it is in the best interests of our own national security. I respect and support her decision.
http://lgraham.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=3c6cb745-802a-23ad-4cb0-bf7aea66c553&IsTextOnly=False
On a footnote, the $1.3 Billion can only be used to purchasew US made goods.
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 10:08:09 AM
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I think it's ironic that someone mentioned "hate". The hatred of non-Muslims by terroristic Brotherhood is exactly why we should not fund them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2S1mJAxMzA
It looks to me like we have a loose cannon in the White House who either wants to be a dictator or doesn't understand how American government is supposed to operate.
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 10:12:45 AM
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quote: Originally posted by on a fishin mission
It is my understanding that the adeministration is not by-passing congress. Congress approved the fundings with conditions and it was up to the State department to determine when those conditions were met.
WASHINGTON U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) today made this statement on reports Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has waived new congressional restrictions on $1.3 billion in military aid to Egypt.
I support Secretary Clintons decision to release previously appropriated funds to the Egyptian military. The Egyptians must understand this is not a blank check and we will continue to insist their government show progress on democratic reforms and protection of religious minorities.
While recent developments in Egypt are unnerving, to say the least, I do believe it is in our national security interests to provide assistance to the Egyptian military. The United States military has a close working relationship with their Egyptian counterparts. These relationships proved to be invaluable and have been a stabilizing influence during these troubling and uncertain times in Egypt.
I know the decision to waive the conditions placed on funding by Secretary Clinton was difficult. But I do believe it is in the best interests of our own national security. I respect and support her decision.
http://lgraham.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressRoom.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=3c6cb745-802a-23ad-4cb0-bf7aea66c553&IsTextOnly=False
On a footnote, the $1.3 Billion can only be used to purchasew US made goods.
"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson
Once again, you post something that refutes your conclusion. Do you ever actually read what you post to make sure it actually supports your point?
Maybe you missed the part above, where Graham said, "I know the decision to waive the conditions placed on funding by Secretary Clinton was difficult. But I do believe it is in the best interests of our own national security. I respect and support her decision."
The man admitted that the President decided to "waive the condistions placed on funding". Those conditions were set by Congress, and they were that no funding could be sent until the human-rights issues were cleared up--which are not. To put it bluntly, the Muslim Broterhood shows less respect for human rights than the KKK.
Perhaps, you think that just because a Republican supports the move, then it's OK with Conservatives. Wrong. Of all people, you think Lindsay Graham's opinion means something here? LOL. Keep shopping.
"On a footnote, the $1.3 Billion can only be used to purchasew US made goods."
Ah, so we'll really be giving them military support by giving them money to buy it from us. Sure, that makes it so much more innocent.
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Edited by - gotchacovered on 04/02/2012 10:21:50 AM |
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Easy
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 10:15:53 AM
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| I don't know if giving the money to the military is such a bad thing? As long as it doesn't have to go through the governments ie: Muslim Brotherhood's hands. The military isn't controlled, as of yet, by them! Also we can keep tabs on the money by just running a debit account and seeing what they are spending the money on! That said, I would be against, just handing the money over! |
Edited by - Easy on 04/02/2012 10:19:46 AM |
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hhi angler
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 11:00:02 AM
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| You can bet it will be just handed over with supply's being bought from the skinny socialist pals. Anything to buy a vote he will kiss a Muslims butt for a vote no matter if they are supplying bombs to terrorist. |
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gotchacovered
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Fred67
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 2:15:04 PM
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quote: Originally posted by SirSpear
quote: Originally posted by hhi angler
It would appear that the Muslims seem to make it quite clear on a regular bases they don't care about any other religions except to destroy them and there followers and they seem hell bent to accomplish that end. Wonder why law enforcement are alway arresting individuals who are plotting terrorist attacks express a strong Muslim belief? What did that POS US Army MD shout before firing?
Seriously. I have never heard of law enforcement arresting any non-Muslim terrorists. Just doesn't happen.
I believe you have correctly called me on a statement or two that might not have had written proof and also you seem to "pride" yourself on correcting other posters statesments that you think are off. But in this case you are completely out of line and way past left field.
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