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Rapchizzle
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Posted - 05/09/2012 :  8:35:39 PM  Show Profile Send Rapchizzle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
After some convincing by Cracker Larry, I got the plans for the GF14 from http://www.bateau.com. I want to build it for inshore fishing and beating around and whatnot so she'll get a work boat finish. My epoxy and fiberglass just got here and I've got my work space set up. I've even got van bench seats for the ladies to come hang out and watch me work. I recently got a fancy camera and am itching to use it so expect quite a few pictures.

I did a rebuild on a 13ft Malibu a couple years ago and that's what really got me inspired to build this new boat. You can check out the pictures at this link (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.528207271695.2030656.46403067&type=3&l=86f489a40c). I plan to make a photo album on my Facebook and use it to host the pictures to post on this here forum.

Now I'm just waiting for that plywood to get here so I can get to building.










-Capt. Chris Rapchick

yella bote
no motor

Edited by - Rapchizzle on 08/23/2012 4:42:01 PM

xxmadfirexx
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Posted - 05/09/2012 :  8:40:06 PM  Show Profile Send xxmadfirexx a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sweet paint job on the utility trailer!

2007 Scout 221 150 Yamaha 4 stroke
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LEG3
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Posted - 05/10/2012 :  08:35:14 AM  Show Profile Send LEG3 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
gonna need something in that cooler!

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Rapchizzle
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Posted - 05/10/2012 :  5:40:46 PM  Show Profile Send Rapchizzle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.bateau.com/studyplans/GF14_study.htm?prod=GF14

Those are the study plans for the boat I'm building. I just picked up some odds and ends at Home Depot today and am getting the wood for the cleats, runners, rub rails and spray rails tomorrow. After much delibaration on where to put the battery, run the chase tubes, mount the lights and speakers and do it all while making sure nothing gets too exposed to saltwater, I've decided I'm going to keep it simple and do without an electrical system. I'll have some clamp on lights for when I'm running and fishing at night and rechargeable, waterproof, work radio that I can remove when I'm done. I'll save weight, money and time by not worrying about all that because after all, it's just a jon boat so I may wait until I build a bigger boat for all that fancy dancy electrical business....

The transom will be cut for a short shaft motor (~17" depending on make) and I'll be looking for a 15-25 hp 2 stroke late model outboard when I come back to SC.




-Capt. Chris Rapchick

yella bote
no motor

Edited by - Rapchizzle on 05/10/2012 8:41:15 PM
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dernflatlander
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Posted - 05/10/2012 :  8:24:01 PM  Show Profile Send dernflatlander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There are a lot more 20" motors available than 15", especially electric start. Good luck on your build.
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Rapchizzle
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Posted - 05/10/2012 :  8:44:34 PM  Show Profile Send Rapchizzle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dernflatlander

There are a lot more 20" motors available than 15", especially electric start. Good luck on your build.



This is true and I'm going to hope I can find a short shaft motor but am not ruling out the option of a longer shafted motor. I've got the plans for a small, lightweight, aluminum jackplate in the event I have to go with a 20" (~21+" actual length) motor.





-Capt. Chris Rapchick

yella bote
no motor
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Optiker
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Posted - 05/10/2012 :  9:19:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit Optiker's Homepage Send Optiker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Very cool. Im looking forward to following this.

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IM4USC
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Posted - 05/10/2012 :  11:13:34 PM  Show Profile Send IM4USC a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Had a dear old friend with a Malibu in the very early 80's...had a lot of fun and learned a lot about inshore fishing in it from him, brings back some wonderful memories.

Checked out the plans and BOM for the bateau...I'm excited about watching the progress of this build and thank you for sharing it with us.

I bet it turns out great, can't wait to watch.

Edit: Pix of the ladies on the van seats watching will be appreciated.

Edited by - IM4USC on 05/10/2012 11:15:49 PM
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palmettotrooper
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Posted - 05/11/2012 :  12:03:22 AM  Show Profile Send palmettotrooper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Edit: Pix of the ladies on the van seats watching will be appreciated.

Im with IM4USC!
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Cracker Larry
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Posted - 05/11/2012 :  12:29:56 AM  Show Profile Send Cracker Larry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Chris, ideally you should settle on the motor first and build the transom to fit it. I've found that 15" shaft motors can actually be 16 or 17, and that 20" shafts can be 21 or 22, depending on brands. Or you might even get a deal on a 25", like I did.

Better at this point in your build to let the transom run high. You can cut it down later a lot easier than you can build it up. I had built this one at 20", but ended up with a 25" shaft motor and had to raise the transom. Trust me, it's easier to shorten it than it is to raise it



Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

Edited by - Cracker Larry on 05/11/2012 12:31:37 AM
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RussB
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Posted - 05/11/2012 :  12:30:09 AM  Show Profile Send RussB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Edit: Pix of the ladies on the van seats watching will be appreciated"


If I know Rap, we Won't be dissapointed!


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Cracker Larry
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Posted - 05/11/2012 :  12:45:58 AM  Show Profile Send Cracker Larry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
I've got the plans for a small, lightweight, aluminum jackplate in the event I have to go with a 20" (~21+" actual length) motor.


Just making suggestions, I know you know boats, but I know this one. It won't be happy with a jack plate because of the set back of weight. As I mentioned in the Bateau forum, these boats are already light in the bow and need some weight forward. Any setback will magnify that. Better to build the transom at 22 now rather than adding height with a jack plate.

The boat will run best with the AV plate about an inch above the bottom so allow for that, also.


Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
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Rapchizzle
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Posted - 05/11/2012 :  01:40:56 AM  Show Profile Send Rapchizzle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's a good point Larry, I will build the transom at 22" and then see what motor I end up with.

Does anyone have a good source for a rubber rub rail? I'll build a 1 1/2" X 3/4" rub rail along the gunwales, but I know that fiberglass/wood rub rail won't hold up against oyster shells and dock pylons for very long.
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Reelescape
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Posted - 05/11/2012 :  5:37:42 PM  Show Profile Send Reelescape a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rapchizzle

That's a good point Larry, I will build the transom at 22" and then see what motor I end up with.

Does anyone have a good source for a rubber rub rail? I'll build a 1 1/2" X 3/4" rub rail along the gunwales, but I know that fiberglass/wood rub rail won't hold up against oyster shells and dock pylons for very long.



Taco rub rails
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Cracker Larry
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Posted - 05/11/2012 :  9:40:11 PM  Show Profile Send Cracker Larry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yep, Taco rails. Here are 2 sources I've used and been happy with.

http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse.cfm/rubrail/2,545.html

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=58914&familyName=Taco+Rigid+Rub+Rail+with+Flexible+Insert



Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats

Edited by - Cracker Larry on 05/11/2012 9:42:38 PM
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Rapchizzle
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Posted - 05/15/2012 :  12:32:47 AM  Show Profile Send Rapchizzle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My plywood came in today and I got to measuring quickly after work. I cut the stern panel of the sides with a fine tooth blade on a 7 1/4" circular saw and found out quickly the blade was dull. I'm not very happy with the cuts but I have no doubt I'll be able to remedy that issue when I start putting everything else together. I then switched to a different blade and the cuts were much better.


My rub rails, spray rails, runners, and cleats all ripped to the correct width. I used 1" x 4"s and 1" x 6"s of Southern Yella Pine and ripped them to the specified widths for each piece.


I'm using Meranti BS6566 and got 4 sheets of 1/4" and 3 sheets of 1/2".



My bow floor all measured out and ready to cut.


My side panels stacked, measured, marked and ready to cut.


This is when I cut the bow side panels. I fine toothed blade was dull so it made cutting hard and I got some pretty crooked and nasty cuts. I figure that with all the extra epoxy and whatnot I ordered, I'll be able to fill it in to the point it's 100% structurally sound and when it's all done, no one will know but me (and you...) about the crappy cuts. I switched over to another sharper blade for the rest of the cuts. I'm not impressed with using the bigger saw and will try to get a smaller one for the rest of the cuts even though I'm pretty much done with most of the curved cuts.


I got my side and bottom panels all lined up with the butt blocks ready for glue.


I have the butt blocks glued and weighted and am looking forward to see how they turn out.


Crooked cuts on the stern side panels.


I found this bad boy floating out in front of our island this afternoon! It's a 110 acre undeveloped barrier island so we get anything and EVERYTHING washing up on our beach. I've found a few plugs, good 5 gal buckets, 1 pair of matching flip flops a couple months apart, message in a bottle, hypodermic needles, etc.
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ayejoe1017
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Posted - 05/15/2012 :  07:14:44 AM  Show Profile Send ayejoe1017 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Coming along nicely, thanks for the update.

Now what about those girls everyone's been talking about?



quote:
Originally posted by Bolbie

...the harbor was slick as an eel pecker.

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Rapchizzle
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Posted - 05/15/2012 :  08:20:00 AM  Show Profile Send Rapchizzle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ha right now, it's only a few of us staff members here and we're just getting the camp ready for the kids to come. The new staff arrives this weekend so my attention will be halfway diverted from the build in the evening times.
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Rapchizzle
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Posted - 05/16/2012 :  8:51:10 PM  Show Profile Send Rapchizzle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I tried chiseling it off but wasn't pleased with the job I did. I got the new side panels cut and the new butt blocks glued on this evening. Tomorrow I'll start assembling the pieces of the puzzle and hopefully they'll fit!







I did a much cleaner cut on the side panels this time and am pretty happy with the way they turned out. Also found another good 5 gallon bucket washed up on our island today.

Edited by - Rapchizzle on 05/17/2012 5:32:16 PM
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Easy
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Posted - 05/16/2012 :  9:16:53 PM  Show Profile Send Easy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK! What your telling us, is that you are going to be getting a bunch of Summer hire, staff hotties, to fill those seats
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jerms
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Posted - 05/17/2012 :  2:49:24 PM  Show Profile Send jerms a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Keep it up Rap, I love these boat building threads!

I'm very seriously considering starting my own build, the FS18.



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A long long slow walk in the spartina gives you time to think big thoughts and put your mind back into order.
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Cracker Larry
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Posted - 05/17/2012 :  3:12:56 PM  Show Profile Send Cracker Larry a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
I'm very seriously considering starting my own build, the FS18.


I'm building an FS18 now, if you have any questions about it I'm glad to help.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
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Rapchizzle
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Posted - 05/17/2012 :  5:36:38 PM  Show Profile Send Rapchizzle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Easy

OK! What your telling us, is that you are going to be getting a bunch of Summer hire, staff hotties, to fill those seats



Haha you could say that. Everyone will be getting here this weekend.

quote:
Originally posted by jerms

Keep it up Rap, I love these boat building threads!

I'm very seriously considering starting my own build, the FS18.



Do it! I'll be moving back to Charleston in September and will be itching to help with the whole process. That'd be a great boat for around the Lowcountry. I was also looking at the FS18, OB17 (cut down and built more like a bay boat), or the PH22 one day down the line.
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jerms
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Posted - 05/18/2012 :  10:20:28 AM  Show Profile Send jerms a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If I decide to do it, I will probably wait until this winter to start. Too busy right now to begin a project of that magnitude, and I'll be headed back down to Antarctica in late September for a few months.




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Rapchizzle
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Posted - 05/23/2012 :  12:11:58 AM  Show Profile Send Rapchizzle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was able to get the rest of the cleats glued, extra partitions and cleats for the foamed compartments cut and the rub rails glued today. All of our staff is here now and we've been pretty heavy into the staff training so I've been quite busy!










The cleats are glued and cut in the bow platform. I need to install and glue a backing for the bow eye and bow line cleat shortly.


Also, Zman baits donated a few boxes of lures, dredges, skirts, plastic ballyhoo, squids, and more to us down here at the Florida Sea Base! We're ever thankful and I can't wait to start dragging these bad boys next week! It's always good when a such a great company is so generous for a good cause.






Edited by - Rapchizzle on 05/23/2012 12:17:46 AM
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barbawang
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Posted - 05/23/2012 :  5:52:11 PM  Show Profile  Send barbawang an AOL message Send barbawang a Private Message  Reply with Quote
yeah, that dude sitting on your van seat leaves a little to be desired after the read, but aside from that, this thread is cool.
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