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Originally posted by on a fishin mission

"The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement" from the capias request.

This is where the problem started, Zimmerman was negligent, period!

"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson

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Originally posted by RWL

On CNN last night, they are still showing pictures of Travon when he 12 and one of him kissing his DAd at the age. What is all of that about? Do they not have any recent pictures of this young man or do all of those pictures show a wanna be gangster that would ruin the agenda of the stories they are writing?

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Originally posted by RWL

OMF, I guess you missed the part in the police report where Zimmerman was already out of his truck when he called the police and after losing track of Travon was headed back to his truck when Travon approched him and asked if he had a problem. Zimmerman answers no and Travon says, "Well you have one now"! According to that, I could just as easy say that if Travon would have just kept walking to the house, this would have never happened. Where would neglect come into play even if he had got out of the truck and tried to pursue Travon? He has the right to do so as it was in HIS neighborhood and he was the head of HOA (I hear) and there had been a rash of breakins. Following him or not, if Travon confronted him and started beating him as described in the police report then he just bit off more than he could chew! Like I have said before, why isn't anyone saying that if the young man would have just explained who he was and what he was doing then none of this would have happened? Instead it sounds like he thought he was a big bad a$$ and acted like a thug and received teh bad end of the stick for it! On CNN last night, they are still showing pictures of Travon when he 12 and one of him kissing his DAd at the age. What is all of that about? Do they not have any recent pictures of this young man or do all of those pictures show a wanna be gangster that would ruin the agenda of the stories they are writing? I know there are some people that if they saw a person they didn't know walking through thier neighbor's yard and there had been some breakins, they would just call the cops and that's it and that is fine, but I know alot of people, me included, that would confront that person to find out who and what they are doing, while at the same time having the wife call police. If that person started a fight with me and I felt as if my well being was in question and I had means to end that threat, whether deadly or not, I would definaltely do it!! I know I could possibly die when I confront them, but it is not in my nature to just let them go about their business in MY neighborhood!

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Originally posted by gotchacovered

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Originally posted by on a fishin mission

"The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement" from the capias request.

This is where the problem started, Zimmerman was negligent, period!

"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson

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I knew you wouldn't admit that you were wrong. You disputed the claim that Martin was beating up Zimmerman before. You said Zimmerman "stalked" the "kid" "with a gun", "cornered" him, and "shot him in cold blood" and that it was an apparent "hate crime" because Zimmerman said "coon" in the process. You said that 3 witnesses said they saw Zimmerman on top of Martin during the fight instead of Martin--but actually two witnesses said the opposite (that Martin was on top) and the others said they didn't see the fight at all, but only saw laid eyes on the scene after the shooting. Every single one of those claims you made has now been either proven false or rendered completely inconclusive. In particular, this evidence strongly supports Zimmerman's claim that Martin was on top of him, beating him silly, when the shooting happened.

Now, just as I knew, you can't admit your error.

Oh, and once again, there is nothing "negligent" about Zimmerman following Martin on foot. I recommend that you look up the word "negligent". You're misusing the word.

We could also change the statement you made as follows. "The encounter fight and shooting between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was were both ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman Martin, if Zimmerman Martin had remained in his vehicle simply kept walking, or called 911 instead of his girlfriend and awaited the arrival of law enforcement, rather than violently attacking Zimmerman"








Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862

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Originally posted by gotchacovered

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Originally posted by on a fishin mission

"The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement" from the capias request.

This is where the problem started, Zimmerman was negligent, period!

"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson

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I knew you wouldn't admit that you were wrong. You disputed the claim that Martin was beating up Zimmerman before. You said Zimmerman "stalked" the "kid" "with a gun", "cornered" him, and "shot him in cold blood" and that it was an apparent "hate crime" because Zimmerman said "coon" in the process. You said that 3 witnesses said they saw Zimmerman on top of Martin during the fight instead of Martin--but actually two witnesses said the opposite (that Martin was on top) and the others said they didn't see the fight at all, but only saw laid eyes on the scene after the shooting. Every single one of those claims you made has now been either proven false or rendered completely inconclusive. In particular, this evidence strongly supports Zimmerman's claim that Martin was on top of him, beating him silly, when the shooting happened.

Now, just as I knew, you can't admit your error.

Oh, and once again, there is nothing "negligent" about Zimmerman following Martin on foot. I recommend that you look up the word "negligent". You're misusing the word.

We could also change the statement you made as follows. "The encounter fight and shooting between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was were both ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman Martin, if Zimmerman Martin had remained in his vehicle simply kept walking, or called 911 instead of his girlfriend and awaited the arrival of law enforcement, rather than violently attacking Zimmerman"








Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862

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Originally posted by gotchacovered

I still haven't heard a peep about the following point. What if Martin really was one of the people who had been breaking into houses in Zimmerman's neighborhood? Would that change anything for anyone? For me, it would not really change anything, except it would just confirm my position all the more--that we DO have the right to follow and watch suspicious people in our neighborhoods, and that we do have the right to defend ourselves with force if attacked. However, for the other side, what does it mean? Who would not bet that the Zimmerman critics would STILL maintain their position even if that jewelry found on Martin matched property stolen from houses in Zimmerman's neighborhood? I'm not a betting man in general, but I predict that even if they find identifiable stolen property in Martin's house, the anti-Zimmerman crowd will maintain their same position. They'll still say that Zimmerman had no right to "follow him with a gun" and that he should have waited for the police (again, to no avail).

I guess this is a moot point, though, because the school already alleged to have found stolen jewelry on Martin, and apparently, no one is investigating the possibility that he was robbing houses. Nope, it's all about the whitish-colored man shooting a black man, and the fact that a CWP was involved in a stand-your-ground application. It's the perfect peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwich for those pushing the Leftist agenda--race-baiting plus gun control. Reeses couldn't make for a more palatable combination.





Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862

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Originally posted by alabamafan2

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Originally posted by gotchacovered

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Originally posted by on a fishin mission

"The encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement" from the capias request.

This is where the problem started, Zimmerman was negligent, period!

"Those who have the ability to make a difference have the responsibility to do so." Thomas Jefferson

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I knew you wouldn't admit that you were wrong. You disputed the claim that Martin was beating up Zimmerman before. You said Zimmerman "stalked" the "kid" "with a gun", "cornered" him, and "shot him in cold blood" and that it was an apparent "hate crime" because Zimmerman said "coon" in the process. You said that 3 witnesses said they saw Zimmerman on top of Martin during the fight instead of Martin--but actually two witnesses said the opposite (that Martin was on top) and the others said they didn't see the fight at all, but only saw laid eyes on the scene after the shooting. Every single one of those claims you made has now been either proven false or rendered completely inconclusive. In particular, this evidence strongly supports Zimmerman's claim that Martin was on top of him, beating him silly, when the shooting happened.

Now, just as I knew, you can't admit your error.

Oh, and once again, there is nothing "negligent" about Zimmerman following Martin on foot. I recommend that you look up the word "negligent". You're misusing the word.

We could also change the statement you made as follows. "The encounter fight and shooting between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was were both ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman Martin, if Zimmerman Martin had remained in his vehicle simply kept walking, or called 911 instead of his girlfriend and awaited the arrival of law enforcement, rather than violently attacking Zimmerman"








Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarine.net
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862

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I don't think Zimmerman was negligent. I do think he was stupid and his not staying in the car resulted in Martin's death. Unlike OFM, I do not think that makes him a criminal. It's looking more and more everyday like there will be no conviction found. And rightfully so.

But for the record, the fact that they found THC in Martin's blood doesn't mean much to me. Especially at the levels they reported. Marijuana doesn't make people violent. It makes them lazy. If they found meth or coke that would mean something to this case.

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