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eza88
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Posted - 05/31/2012 :  10:44:38 PM  Show Profile Send eza88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some months ago I asked folks for input on a kayak prototype that I was working on. I haven't worked out how to manufacture them exactly, so I am building some, for now. I added foot braces to this one today (not pictured) I might fish this one in the IFA. Thanks to all who gave advice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwYtesb07j0&feature=youtu.be




Edited by - eza88 on 05/31/2012 10:59:43 PM

elgeebee
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Posted - 06/01/2012 :  05:43:30 AM  Show Profile Send elgeebee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Looks like it was zipping through the water in the first part of the video...congrats on a nice looking and functional rig!

-Lewis

Jackson Kayak Cuda
WS Ride 135
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5151
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Posted - 06/01/2012 :  09:24:58 AM  Show Profile Send 5151 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
very nice, like how easy it looks to move the hulls from narrow to wide and back.
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DFreedom
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Posted - 06/01/2012 :  10:36:42 AM  Show Profile Send DFreedom a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A Biyakamaran. I like it.
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Optiker
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Posted - 06/01/2012 :  10:44:31 AM  Show Profile  Visit Optiker's Homepage Send Optiker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Beautiful! Congrats to you, I LOVE the entrepreneurial spirit. The design looks very good, and I bet its lightning fast.
Are you planning to keep these custom-wood fabrication, or maybe go with a more mass-produced construction? I think you are on to something there...

Nicely done!


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yakman72
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Posted - 06/01/2012 :  11:17:22 AM  Show Profile Send yakman72 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Looks great and a blast to be on! But it also doesn't look like there's s place for tackle and other storage or rodholders.

I'm a high class redneck.

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eza88
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Posted - 06/01/2012 :  11:34:33 AM  Show Profile Send eza88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm hoping to mass produce. In fact, I'm meeting with some investors today. Multiplastics in Mount Pleasant might be able to thermoform the pontoons. I just don't know about costs. The one pictured is marine ply with West System and glass.

I did not do a good job of photographing the storage, but it's got it. The four hatches are roomy. You can even feed two-part or small rods into the pontoons. I just finished mounting rod holders to the back of the seat and a removable leaning post toward the front of the deck. There is also a system for mounting crates, coolers, etc. from the front or back of the deck.

When it is rigged up, I will post a pic. I am definitely open to feedback on better ways to do things.

Thanks again for the comments.
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DFreedom
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Posted - 06/01/2012 :  12:35:09 PM  Show Profile Send DFreedom a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Man, something roto-molded would definitely be cool and probably a lot lighter. Good luck!
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saltyyakker
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Posted - 06/01/2012 :  3:02:21 PM  Show Profile Send saltyyakker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nice job. Definitely looks interesting. Id say you can corner a niche in the market right now. I don't know of any mass produced prototypes.
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elgeebee
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Posted - 06/01/2012 :  4:46:19 PM  Show Profile Send elgeebee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
eza88 how heavy is the boat? Just curious...

-Lewis

Jackson Kayak Cuda
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eza88
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96 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2012 :  7:35:51 PM  Show Profile Send eza88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
elgeebee, I held each of pieces and stood on a bathroom scale. The pontoons each way about 35lbs with the cross members. The deck turned out to be a little over built. Alone, it weighed about 25lbs, but after mounting the hardware and seat it probably weighs between 30 and 35lbs. Still, it breaks down so easily that an individual could move the boat in three separate pieces and even car-top-it, for that matter.
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LocalHero
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Posted - 06/01/2012 :  7:48:41 PM  Show Profile Send LocalHero a Private Message  Reply with Quote
eza88, this is really cool! If it weighs ~100lbs made out of ply and glass, it shouldn't be too bad out of plastic or even higher end materials. What are the dimensions? Width collapsed and expanded? Length? Is it a bear to turn with a paddle? Can I borrow it for the summer?

As for suggestions; I'd say just look at all of the fine sot kayaks out there and pic the best of the features from all of them. The pontoons look pretty tall compared to a kayak for instance. Do they need to be that tall or can they be made shorter and likely catch less wind. The ideas stimulated are endless...
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eza88
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Posted - 06/01/2012 :  9:03:05 PM  Show Profile Send eza88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LocalHero, thanks for the comments. I'm considering polyethylene, ABS or maybe composite, and like you said, I think the weight will be O.K. Maybe a Nida Core honeycomb deck?

This first one is just under 12' on deck and expands from a 30" to 46" beam. The deck itself is 30"X48". The heighth of the pontoons is sort of a compromise to allow clearance below the deck in a chop. If you notice in the video, it might not be good to go too much lower.

As for turning, I'll spin that answer by saying that it tracks exceptionally well. Actually, it's not that bad, because the boat is not real long.

I'm hoping to pre-fish at Paradise Island Landing tomorrow after lunch if anyone wants to try it.

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LocalHero
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Posted - 06/02/2012 :  5:26:20 PM  Show Profile Send LocalHero a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eza88

LocalHero, thanks for the comments. I'm considering polyethylene, ABS or maybe composite, and like you said, I think the weight will be O.K. Maybe a Nida Core honeycomb deck?

This first one is just under 12' on deck and expands from a 30" to 46" beam. The deck itself is 30"X48". The heighth of the pontoons is sort of a compromise to allow clearance below the deck in a chop. If you notice in the video, it might not be good to go too much lower.

As for turning, I'll spin that answer by saying that it tracks exceptionally well. Actually, it's not that bad, because the boat is not real long.



Good answer spin! :-)

If the deck is 30" w, then I guess the pontoons are only 12" w max, right?
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eza88
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Posted - 06/02/2012 :  9:35:38 PM  Show Profile Send eza88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pontoons are 11" on this one. I could tweak the proportions, but I have a prototype for a pedal drive that will be mounted between them in the near future, so I like the spacing, for now.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=wGQIAgAAEBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=aaron+leland+baldwin&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Nr_KT6GxC4HA8ATL_d3uDg&sqi=2&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA
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Bill D
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Posted - 06/02/2012 :  11:24:52 PM  Show Profile Send Bill D a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pretty neat, hope it works for you. You have applied for a patent, before showing the world your dream???
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eza88
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Posted - 06/02/2012 :  11:26:55 PM  Show Profile Send eza88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
patent pending, yes.
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GamecockFisher
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Posted - 06/04/2012 :  08:02:55 AM  Show Profile Send GamecockFisher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To market to fresh water folks, and I know lots of kayakers will cringe, but money is money...an optional trolling motor mount behind the seat would be good. I really like it, I think you've done something special.
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eza88
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96 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2012 :  08:35:19 AM  Show Profile Send eza88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey GamecockFisher, that can be easily done, and I want the boat to be as versatile as possible. Maybe a battery in each pontoon. Thanks.
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fishfinatic
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Posted - 06/04/2012 :  9:41:17 PM  Show Profile Send fishfinatic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nice meeting you at the IFA event. I was the fellow CU alum from MB. Stay in touch and hope the biyak is successful. Maybe I'll see ya on the water when I am in the area again
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