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DFreedom
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 Posted - 06/03/2012 : 08:38:24 AM
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I couldn't believe no one had posted anything about the USC/Clemson game yesterday. No baseball fans? That was a heck of a ball game. We were supposed to go out to eat last night but no one dared leave until the game had been decided. Of course I am glad the Cocks were able to win it but, they were really lucky to do so. I felt like the tiggers played better overall and probably should have won but, never count out Ray's boys,
Also, congrats to Coastal and COC. Glad to see they both won. I hate that 3 state teams are in the same regional because that means only one can advance. Oh well, let's hope it is the Gamecocks. |
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Fishb8
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Posted - 06/03/2012 : 08:51:10 AM
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It was a great game. I expected nothing less.
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shevlin
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Posted - 06/03/2012 : 09:31:40 AM
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was a great game and tough loss. Gossett out pitched Roth. Clemson left too many runners on and USC was clutch once again.
Still very confused on how you call interference there? the clemson base runner never left his lane and I've see the 2B man taken out a million times before without that being called. The double play was still completed.
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Fishb8
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Posted - 06/03/2012 : 10:13:01 AM
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It looked to me like he hit the 2B with his hand. But still a close call. No doubt he was trying to interfere without "interfering"
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shevlin
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Posted - 06/03/2012 : 10:57:49 AM
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Originally posted by Fishb8
It looked to me like he hit the 2B with his hand. But still a close call. No doubt he was trying to interfere without "interfering"
absolutely he was. I feel like you see that almost every game and there is usually no call, like its just a part of the game though.
Hope we get another shot at you guys this afternoon but don't have my hopes up. we don't have the pitching to win 3 more games in 2 days.
would be intense if we battled back to the final game Monday. |
Edited by - shevlin on 06/03/2012 11:10:43 AM |
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ayejoe1017
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Posted - 06/03/2012 : 4:17:10 PM
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Do-over!!!
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shevlin
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Posted - 06/03/2012 : 4:41:36 PM
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the announcer just said "jack leggett has not had a call go his way all weekend" or something along that lines. ouch.
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IM4USC
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Posted - 06/03/2012 : 10:11:31 PM
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The University of South Carolina had more hits, fewer errors and batted for a higher percentage agaisnt the tigs.
The university of clemson hit .189 against Carolina combined and still only lost by one run in each game.
It was closer than I expected it to be.
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shevlin
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 06:53:07 AM
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It was closer than I expected it to be.
same here. You guys have better talent all around and better coaching. I don't see that changing anytime soon now that you guys are rolling with 2 NC and on the way to a possible 3rd.
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Fishb8
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 07:05:10 AM
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It is great to see such a small state put alot of talent together. just hate only 1 team get to move on. The USC vs Cu games were fun to watch.....and I do not like baseball until the games really count.
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RWL
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 07:47:08 AM
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I don't think anyone "expected" any less. Great games to watch as a baseball fan. As a Clemson fan, I think both calls on the base paths were ok, they came at bad times. In the interference call, if the runner would have kept his habds straight up, he would have been ok, but he stuck his left arm out to intentionally hit/grab the fielder. You can slide at the guy all you want (as long as you can touch the base) but you can't reach out or intentionally use your arms to interfere with the fielder. I don't know why the runner wasn't allowed to score though, unless that is a college rule. Usually the runners are allowed to stay where they would have been as if the play were clean. in the second play, the runner did go more than tree feet out of his intended line to the base IMO. Why he didn't just run into the third baseman, I don't know! I believe that would have been interference on his part, not sure though.
Once again, great games and I will be rooting for Carolina to keep it going and win that 3rd Championship in a row!!! Good Luck! |
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saltydog235
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 07:50:40 AM
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Congrats to the chickens, now go win another one for the state. Clemson played well but still left a lot on base that first game, they should have won it in 9 not lost it in 12. I'd complain about the unpire in the 2nd game but he was consistantly inconsistant with his plate work for both sides. Clemson wasn't the better team and hasn't been a real good team all year, I'm still suprised they even made the regional. I do think RT got some help on that interference call, 99.99999999% of the time, that would be a good slide. Now a good cleating to the shin or gut, that's interference.
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Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
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Fishb8
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 08:08:10 AM
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"the unpire in the 2nd game but he was consistantly inconsistant with his plate work for both sides"
very true. Could not believe some of the strikes/no strikes he called. but he did it on both sides.
On the plate at the plate in the 1st inning, I think the runner was safe, but (**() that was a he11 of a play by CU to make it that close. Great throw from left field to the cut-off man. Then a great throw to the plate. Looked safe to me but a great play non the less.
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RWL
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 08:41:28 AM
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I thought he was safe too FISH. That throw should not have been cutoff. It was right on line and would have been a perfect one hop to the plate. That split second for the cutoff man's throw was the difference on that play.
I though the UMP was inconsistant one way for the first three innings Clemson pitcher wasn't getting the strike on the outsides of the plate) and then settled in with the outside pitch from then on pretty consistantly for both sides the rest of the game. That's baseball though. |
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saltydog235
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 08:44:24 AM
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Originally posted by Fishb8
"the unpire in the 2nd game but he was consistantly inconsistant with his plate work for both sides"
very true. Could not believe some of the strikes/no strikes he called. but he did it on both sides.
On the plate at the plate in the 1st inning, I think the runner was safe, but (**() that was a he11 of a play by CU to make it that close. Great throw from left field to the cut-off man. Then a great throw to the plate. Looked safe to me but a great play non the less.
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Its kind of hard to be safe when you miss the entire plate by 8" and your hand never hits the ground. That was about the only thing that went CU's way though.
Mark
Mako 262 Twin Yammaha F200s
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid" John Wayne
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CaptFritz
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 08:51:04 AM
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Anyone see the clemson crybabies not want to come out and shake hands with usc after the game. One kid for Clemson stood up and showed some class and was yelling at his teammates to man up.
And the interference was call was legit. The kid went out of his way to throw his arms up to try to interfere with the throw.
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saltydog235
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 09:22:48 AM
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The kid went out of his way to throw his arms up to try to interfere with the throw.
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You've never watched or played very much baseball have you? Every camp and coach I ever had taught that technique on a feet first slide. Ump's discretion, though I don't see how the 3B man was the one to call it. Either way, I doubt it makes a difference in the outcome, the Carolina baseball team is a good club and has been all year. Clemson has been inconsistant and streaky, still not sure how they made it in to begin with.
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Mako 262 Twin Yammaha F200s
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
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CaptFritz
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 09:38:38 AM
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Played it for years and watched plenty. The kid was sliding and was almost all the way to the ground, he threw his arm up at the last minute for no reason other than trying to interfere.
Clemson still came back and took the lead in that game and lost it later. What's the excuse for that?
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Fishb8
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 09:48:50 AM
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Originally posted by saltydog235
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Originally posted by Fishb8
"the unpire in the 2nd game but he was consistantly inconsistant with his plate work for both sides"
very true. Could not believe some of the strikes/no strikes he called. but he did it on both sides.
On the plate at the plate in the 1st inning, I think the runner was safe, but (**() that was a he11 of a play by CU to make it that close. Great throw from left field to the cut-off man. Then a great throw to the plate. Looked safe to me but a great play non the less.
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Its kind of hard to be safe when you miss the entire plate by 8" and your hand never hits the ground. That was about the only thing that went CU's way though.
Mark
Mako 262 Twin Yammaha F200s
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid" John Wayne
Are we talking about the same play......
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saltydog235
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 09:51:56 AM
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His arms went up at the start of his slide, proper technique on a feet first slide into any base.
There's no excuse, Clemson played a heck of a game, so did USC. USC won as they should have, they are the better team and have been all year long. They belong in Omaha provided they beat the Charlottesville winner, which they should since UVa took the Regional off.
Mark
Mako 262 Twin Yammaha F200s
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid" John Wayne
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RWL
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 09:52:34 AM
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| once again, it is not the fact that he had his arms raised above his head! It is when he brought his left down and out to the side to "hook" the legs of the thrower that brought the call. That was considered "intentional". I don't see what is so hard to understand about this? Has anyone found a video clip of this? I couldn't find one on youtube yet. |
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saltydog235
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 10:05:26 AM
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Originally posted by RWL
once again, it is not the fact that he had his arms raised above his head! It is when he brought his left down and out to the side to "hook" the legs of the thrower that brought the call. That was considered "intentional". I don't see what is so hard to understand about this? Has anyone found a video clip of this? I couldn't find one on youtube yet.
Hadn't heard that one yet. Still splitting hairs since the SS had already released the ball. Its baseball, shcitt happens especially on split second calls.
Mark
Mako 262 Twin Yammaha F200s
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid" John Wayne
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saltydog235
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 10:07:07 AM
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Originally posted by Fishb8
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Originally posted by saltydog235
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Originally posted by Fishb8
"the unpire in the 2nd game but he was consistantly inconsistant with his plate work for both sides"
very true. Could not believe some of the strikes/no strikes he called. but he did it on both sides.
On the plate at the plate in the 1st inning, I think the runner was safe, but (**() that was a he11 of a play by CU to make it that close. Great throw from left field to the cut-off man. Then a great throw to the plate. Looked safe to me but a great play non the less.
Fishb8 (Fish Bait)
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If you can't stand behind our soldiers, try standing in front of them.
Its kind of hard to be safe when you miss the entire plate by 8" and your hand never hits the ground. That was about the only thing that went CU's way though.
Mark
Mako 262 Twin Yammaha F200s
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid" John Wayne
Are we talking about the same play......
Fishb8 (Fish Bait)
23 Sea Hunt "My Last Boat V"
If you can't stand behind our soldiers, try standing in front of them.
Yeah, he missed the entire plate, why do you think he was scrambling back when he got tagged out.
Mark
Mako 262 Twin Yammaha F200s
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal? I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid" John Wayne
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Fishb8
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 10:13:34 AM
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not that play. the play at home in the 2nd game in the first inning. When USC's Joey Pankake scored after the triple. It put USC up 1-0.
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CaptFritz
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Posted - 06/04/2012 : 10:26:23 AM
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The reality is that Clemson actually got a gift run on an interference non-call. With the score tied at two, they hit into what should have been an easy inning-ending DP. Only the Tiger baserunner did not slide, which forced an errant throw to 1st and let the runner score from 3rd. Per rule, the baserunner is required to slide in that situation, because it is both unfair and dangerous to come in standing up. The interference call should have been made, and probably would have been made except for the earlier call. We had the right to throw at the baserunner's head which would have forced the call, but that would have been dangerous and poor sportsmanship. But the Tigers actually came out ahead on the interference calls - one was made correctly, one incorrectly, and the incorrect call gave them a run they did not deserve.
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