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roadie
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Posted - 06/11/2012 :  08:45:19 AM  Show Profile Send roadie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is it legal to clean your catch while on the water , I don't see anything in the regs that it's not ??? Only says ( All species in this section must be landed with head and tail intact ) Up north you can fillet but must keep the car cuss( head and tail intact ) to prove the length !! Someone told me you can not clean them ??? am I missing it in the regs

roadie
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Posted - 06/11/2012 :  10:53:21 AM  Show Profile Send roadie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I guess I'm on shaky ground ??? I thought this would be a slam dunk
yes or a no
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penfishn
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Posted - 06/11/2012 :  11:13:18 AM  Show Profile Send penfishn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think it's ok to scale and gut..but leave everything else intact.....do not filet....



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Double D
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Posted - 06/11/2012 :  12:23:02 PM  Show Profile Send Double D a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I beleive you have to have the head and tail intact to prove legal size.

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PioneerLouie
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Posted - 06/11/2012 :  12:59:19 PM  Show Profile Send PioneerLouie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Any fish that has a size limit has to be returned to the landing intact (that even includes Blue Crabs). It is probably ok to scale and gut, but do not remove the head or tail or you may get into a jam. A previous post on this site told of a guy that decided to clean some of his fish on a dock that had a cleaning station on Shem Creek before getting back to the landing. He was in a jam when he encountered a DNR officer at the landing since the fish could not be measured properly. I am not sure if he got a citation or not. Whiting, mullet, spots and croakers are fine to clean in the boat, but I would make sure the fish does not have a size limit or you need to leave it whole until you get home.


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jws
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Posted - 06/11/2012 :  2:33:36 PM  Show Profile Send jws a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can fillet a fish and the head and tail will still be intact unless you accidently cut through the backbone. I always wait till I get home though.
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roadie
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Posted - 06/12/2012 :  08:07:10 AM  Show Profile Send roadie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
First off thanks for the replies . I just think if they didn't want you to fillet on the water it would be clearly stated in the book !!
I'm big on keeping my catch fresh which means Bleeding and icing it down quickly . Having a small boat I don't have a lot of choices.
It's a lot easier to fillet ,throw the car cuss in the well and bag and ice the fillets . Now all I have to do is catch some fish
I'm new down here and having a blast learning the area . It sure is a beautiful place to fish , and I have been lurking on this site for some time. Plenty of great info to get me started in the right direction.
Just wanted to say to Thanks


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DFreedom
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Posted - 06/12/2012 :  08:23:47 AM  Show Profile Send DFreedom a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Welcome Roadie! You will find some first class people and a lot of great advice/information here at CF.
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Double D
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Posted - 06/12/2012 :  09:23:08 AM  Show Profile Send Double D a Private Message  Reply with Quote
PM barbawang on this site,he can get you the answer that you are looking for.

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StretchArmStrong
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Posted - 06/12/2012 :  1:50:35 PM  Show Profile Send StretchArmStrong a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"up north"...no one cares anything about what's done that direction...its screwed up enough.


how bout you call the dnr up and speak to an LEO instead of asking a bunch of armchair experts? what a concept.

xHCFCx

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roadie
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Posted - 06/12/2012 :  2:21:51 PM  Show Profile Send roadie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow you need to go fish ....


quote:
Originally posted by StretchArmStrong

"up north"...no one cares anything about what's done that direction...its screwed up enough.


how bout you call the dnr up and speak to an LEO instead of asking a bunch of armchair experts? what a concept.

xHCFCx

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StretchArmStrong
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Posted - 06/12/2012 :  5:32:22 PM  Show Profile Send StretchArmStrong a Private Message  Reply with Quote
lol, thats about as funny as some yanktard telling southerners how its done elsewhere.

xHCFCx

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bgf
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Posted - 06/12/2012 :  7:30:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit bgf's Homepage Send bgf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Asking DNR may not settle the issue. we have been told by one that it was OK as long as head and tail are intact, and different by another. I stand by what the book says. OK if you have the carcass with head and tail intact. In fact, the time we were questioned, the officer made a call and let us go, but still said it wasn't legal....?
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ayejoe1017
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Posted - 06/12/2012 :  9:55:28 PM  Show Profile Send ayejoe1017 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think the problem for a LEO would be that there could be no definitive answer as to which filet came from which carcass, so in theory you could filet a undersize fish and toss that carcass and try to pass it off as coming from a regulation size carcass.

No reason to push the issue. leave the fish intact and filet on the hill.



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barbawang
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Posted - 06/12/2012 :  10:23:00 PM  Show Profile  Send barbawang an AOL message Send barbawang a Private Message  Reply with Quote
SC Legislature Section 50-13-60: It is unlawful to land any game fish without head and tail fin intact and where a length limit is imposed on any species it is unlawful to land that species without head and tail fin intact.

disclaimer: this is excerpted from freshwater law. couldn't find it for saltwater, but i believe louie is correct that it applies equally.
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Hurricane701
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Posted - 06/13/2012 :  03:29:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit Hurricane701's Homepage Send Hurricane701 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It follows the same for salt, at least that's how DNR has told me ...

quote:
Originally posted by barbawang

SC Legislature Section 50-13-60: It is unlawful to land any game fish without head and tail fin intact and where a length limit is imposed on any species it is unlawful to land that species without head and tail fin intact.

disclaimer: this is excerpted from freshwater law. couldn't find it for saltwater, but i believe louie is correct that it applies equally.



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goes home through the alley.
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in the grass
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Posted - 06/13/2012 :  10:13:53 PM  Show Profile Send in the grass a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jws

You can fillet a fish and the head and tail will still be intact unless you accidently cut through the backbone. I always wait till I get home though.



Good point! I guess you could fillet 'em. Sure would help with that smell coming out of my trash can.

-There are two types of fisherman those who fish for sport and those who fish for fish.
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timfish
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276 Posts

Posted - 06/14/2012 :  09:01:21 AM  Show Profile Send timfish a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was written a warning from DNR for filleting a cobia on the boat. I told them that i kept the head to tail intact. The guy told me that you cannot "mutilate" the fish. When you fillet an undersized fish it stretches it out a bit. He says my cobia was obviously legal so he wrote me a warning.
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Blue_Runner
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Posted - 06/14/2012 :  11:09:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit Blue_Runner's Homepage Send Blue_Runner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
timfish - that is a crock of BS. Sounds like that fella was out of line and had no legal position to cite you.

Define mutilate? Such a gray area.

Sucks that you had to put up with that dipchit giving you a warning over a LEGAL fish. Sorry, that just ticks me off. The head and tail intact law has a purpose and your situation is not what it was designed for! Where is the common sense these days?


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Blue_Runner
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Posted - 06/14/2012 :  11:19:28 AM  Show Profile  Visit Blue_Runner's Homepage Send Blue_Runner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh and don't think you can fillet fish that do not have a length limit and be fine.....they will simply tell you that since all you have is fillets, they cannot tell what kind of fish it is and hand you a nice little pink slip to take to the judge. Guaranteed.

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roadie
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Posted - 06/14/2012 :  5:04:27 PM  Show Profile Send roadie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This being such a UNDECIDED topic I'll just play it safe and clean the fish back at the dock I'm sure going to ask every time I see a DNR
officer .
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Wolakrab
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Posted - 06/15/2012 :  12:57:20 PM  Show Profile Send Wolakrab a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is straight from a DNR officer-if you clean the fish before you get back to the docks, you will get a ticket. Even though the regs say the fish must arrive with head and tail intact, it doesn't mean you can fillet it while out on the water.


"Never argue with an idiot....he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."

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roadie
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Posted - 06/15/2012 :  4:42:05 PM  Show Profile Send roadie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anyone can tell from this topic , that the DNR should say exactly
what they MEAN . The only thing clear is the book can be misunderstood and should be corrected !!!
The other day at MI the DNR officer was waiting up from the ramp (it was raining out ) in his truck .... if I cleaned my fish at the ramp dock then pulled up what then ??? I get a ticket ??? Can I clean them while tied to the dock ...



quote:
Originally posted by Wolakrab

This is straight from a DNR officer-if you clean the fish before you get back to the docks, you will get a ticket. Even though the regs say the fish must arrive with head and tail intact, it doesn't mean you can fillet it while out on the water.


"Never argue with an idiot....he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."




Edited by - roadie on 06/15/2012 4:44:04 PM
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in the grass
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Posted - 06/16/2012 :  03:56:03 AM  Show Profile Send in the grass a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Has anyone filleted a fish, leaving the head and tail intact and actually got a ticket?

-There are two types of fisherman those who fish for sport and those who fish for fish.
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hairball
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Posted - 06/16/2012 :  06:43:46 AM  Show Profile Send hairball a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here the problem with filleting on the water:

Lets say an angler catches 12 trout. He fillets them up and also cuts the fillets so it is difficult to tell how many fillets. He then dumps 2 of the trout back into the water.

On the way back to the dock he gets stopped and checked. How does the LEO determine if the angler has kept too many fish?


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Easy
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Posted - 06/16/2012 :  06:52:24 AM  Show Profile Send Easy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hairball! Wouldn't it be on DNR to prove you kept too many fish?
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