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yakman72
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Posted - 08/01/2012 : 8:52:07 PM
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I bought a depthfinder today for my kayak/jon boat. Its a portable eagle cuda 128. Got a great deal on it, so I was excited. I was messing around with it in the living room today, and had my wires out. Went to get a drink and came back and my puppy had chewed completely through the wire going from the fishinder unit to the transducer. Its about 3" up from the 'ducer so that part will be underwater no matter what. Is there any way I can fix it or get it fixed!?!? I don't even know if its possible to purchase another cord because the units are out of production.
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tigerfin
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Posted - 08/01/2012 : 9:02:26 PM
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Repair is out of the question. Even if soldered perfectly it probably will never work right. If the transduecer will unplug from the depth finder then you can probably find a new one online. Its still probably cheaper to find a whole new unit.
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MattR
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Posted - 08/01/2012 : 9:18:37 PM
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Get some small diameter shrink tube for the individual strands and 1 big piece with the glue inside that releases when heated. That glue oozes out, guaranteed water tight. Use a good quality solder like kester 44, tin your ends, and solder it up.
I have all the stuff here at the house. If you want, shoot me a PM and I will give you my number. It would only take a few mins to fix it up.
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yakman72
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Posted - 08/01/2012 : 9:43:33 PM
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tigerfin, ill look. MattR, ill have to take you up on that. Haha, I just bought it TODAY so I don't wanna dump anymore money it it!
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tigerfin
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Posted - 08/01/2012 : 10:13:19 PM
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It'll work, it just won't work as well. The shielding in the original cable is the problem. It absorbs interference from being introduced into the signal. I hope it works as good as new.
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MattR
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Posted - 08/01/2012 : 10:42:44 PM
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quote: Originally posted by tigerfin
It'll work, it just won't work as well. The shielding in the original cable is the problem. It absorbs interference from being introduced into the signal. I hope it works as good as new.
'06 Mckee Craft 184 Marathon DF140 Suzuki
You are right but he really doesn't have much to lose, that's why I suggested it. He is a paddler so the interference normally caused by an ignition system shouldn't be an issue. I have repaired a lot of J1939 data links in diesels before without issue. A confirmation with a scope is easy to see if you have a dirty signal.
Normally, I would have said the same but I know his situation and would be more than willing to help him out in exchange for slave labor buffing my boat. 
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Easy
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Posted - 08/01/2012 : 10:51:01 PM
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| Yakman I would not worry about the shielding on it. After all you are going to use it on the Yak. I'm thinking all you'r goingto have is the battery that powers it or does it work on flashlight batteries? |
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yakman72
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Posted - 08/01/2012 : 11:09:51 PM
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Double A batteries easy. Since its portable I wanted to be able use it on a jon boat also. Any other other offers besides mattR so I don't have to buff a boat?
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Easy
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 12:16:33 AM
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| Yakman, Wax On, Wax Off! |
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MattR
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 3:49:04 PM
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That is the problem with todays youth. They want everything for free. 
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Cracker Larry
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 3:59:31 PM
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quote: Any other other offers besides mattR so I don't have to buff a boat?
If you'd prefer sanding a boat, I can fix it for you 
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Hurricane701
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 4:06:32 PM
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Yak, I think they just enjoy badgering
Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish, goes home through the alley. -Anonymous |
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MattR
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 5:45:18 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Cracker Larry
quote: Any other other offers besides mattR so I don't have to buff a boat?
If you'd prefer sanding a boat, I can fix it for you 
Capt. Larry Teuton Cracker Built Custom Boats Marine Surveying & Repair
If we work this right, we could both benefit. I will get half of it done and "run out" of solder after my boat is buffed. He will then have to sand your boat to finish the job.
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Cracker Larry
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 5:53:08 PM
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I like that idea, Matt I've got plenty of solder  The shielding can be restored also, it's really not a problem to fix it
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Cracker Larry
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 6:06:15 PM
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Yakman, I like your style. Matt made you a good offer, but if that doesn't work out for whatever reason, or you get tired of waxing his boat , mail it to me I will fix it for you for free. Have it back to you in a week.
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MattR
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 7:01:45 PM
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Larry, my dog ate my cleats off my boat and I need 4 flush mount units to replace them.....
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Cracker Larry
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 7:39:11 PM
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Must have been a pit bull that snapped and did that Sorry, I don't have any extra flush mount cleats. Shouldn't keep pit bulls I hear, never know when they might go nuts and eat all your cleats 
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Edited by - Cracker Larry on 08/02/2012 7:42:27 PM |
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Easy
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 8:00:04 PM
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| Cracker, if that's how it works, I have a 69 Road Runner with a 4 speed and big ass tires on back and glass packs! It goes like hell from gas station to gas station. Now how's that for style? Now, will you fix my VHF for free? |
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tigerfin
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 8:44:37 PM
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Yak, if all you've got to do is wax a boat, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Sounds like they all have lots for you to learn from and for that alone it would be worth it. I would be glad to fix it as well, but I'm a long way up I26 from folly. Take in everything you can from these guys.
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MattR
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 9:25:37 PM
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I wouldn't have actually made him wax my boat. I did that last week. The wheel bearings need repacked though...
Easy, do you really have a Road Runner? I am a Mopar guy and love their classics. I want a Duster and to build a 440 for it. My 05 Ram dyno'd 616whp and maxed the tq at 1200 ft lbs. I catch a lot of Mustangs and Camaros off guard.
Once I am done putting my wife through college I am going to get a classic Mopar to build.

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Easy
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Posted - 08/02/2012 : 10:43:47 PM
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Na! I bought a new 69 the day after I got home from Nam though. That SOB would run. Been a MOPAR man ever since! I have an 02 Ram PU with the Hemi in it. It goes pretty good too. I almost bought a 69 Runner I found in Ga a couple of years ago. It was all original and only 2 owners. The guy wanted $10,000 for it. I guess I'm getting old because I didn't buy it because it had no AC. I could kick my ass now! The one I want is a Hemi Cuda convertible! I was just seeing if Cracker would like that for style? Oh, I do need help on the VHF though! Can't get it to show the GPS data!
PS: I gave a 500HP VET a run for his money red light to red light and asked him if he wanted to buy it! He asked me, How Much? |
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Cracker Larry
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Posted - 08/03/2012 : 08:23:48 AM
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quote: I was just seeing if Cracker would like that for style? Oh, I do need help on the VHF though! Can't get it to show the GPS data!
I'm more of a Boss Mustang guy, but I'll be glad to help with the VHF. Both the GPS and VHF have a NMEA cable. You will need the manual for each to determine the wire colors, for some reason they aren't standard. The GPS will have a wire listed as NMEA Out +, NMEA Out -, and a ground This connects to the VHF NMEA In + and NMEA In -, ground to ground. So just hook Out + to In +, Out - to In -, and ground to ground.
What I like about Yakmans style is that he's 14 years old, loves fishing, works hard and conducts himself well in the company of adults. He gives me hope for our future.
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MattR
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Posted - 08/03/2012 : 1:43:07 PM
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Larry, I am about to upgrade my radio as well. I have a Garmin chart plotter, do you think its better to get a Garmin radio so they play nice together? I like the Raymarine 49 but I don't want compatibility issues. I know NMEA stuff is supposed to play nice together but I also know from working on electronics its not always the case.
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Cracker Larry
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Posted - 08/03/2012 : 2:36:37 PM
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No need for that Matt, Garmin isn't famous for their radios anyway and whatever you get should work well together, the data format is standard even if the color codes of the wires are not.
I've got a Standard Horizon wired to a Humminbird GPS and a Uniden wired to a Raymarine GPS. No problems. The Uniden has been a piece of junk radio though, not happy at all with it.
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Easy
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Posted - 08/03/2012 : 4:25:12 PM
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| I don't know Cracker and MattR. I've got a new Lorance HDS-5 Gen 2 and a new ICOM 504A and I've hooked them up the way Cracker says! It's the same way the book says to hook them up and nothing! I even hooked up the old Garmin I am replacing and can't get a GPS data reading on the radio. Both GPS's are showing satellites and display data but nothing at the radio end. I'm about ready to sent the radio back to ICOM to have it checked out. I've talked to Both Lorance and ICOM a couple of times, to see if I was missing a setting or something and nothing, so far! |
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Cracker Larry
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Posted - 08/03/2012 : 6:06:14 PM
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Don't know what to say about that, Easy I've hooked up many of them just like that. Are you sure you are using the output wires of the GPS to the input wires of the VHF, out to in, + to + and - to - ? The GPS and radio may both have additional outputs or inputs that will be unused.
I confess to have never wired a Lowrance HDS Gen2 though. Don't know what to tell you and I'm too far away to look at it. Would if I could though.
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Edited by - Cracker Larry on 08/03/2012 6:07:06 PM |
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