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matthollar
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Posted - 03/28/2019 :  11:11:27 AM  Show Profile Send matthollar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Completely redone classic Browning Superposed Belgian. Wood, checkering redone and all metal rust blued by a master gunsmith. Comes in a case. PM with questions please. WOULD POSSIBLY USE FOR A TRADE FOR A 99-2004 TOYOTA 4RUNNER. 4WD PLEASE. MSG ME WHAT YOU HAVE







Edited by - matthollar on 04/12/2019 5:27:14 PM

jesse
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Posted - 03/31/2019 :  1:53:59 PM  Show Profile Send jesse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What an awesome gun !!!
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Sasha and Abby
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Posted - 04/02/2019 :  4:35:04 PM  Show Profile Send Sasha and Abby a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If that was a Long Tang I'd def be interested.

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where they went."
Will Rogers
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matthollar
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Posted - 04/02/2019 :  6:19:00 PM  Show Profile Send matthollar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Meaning?
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sawdust
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Posted - 04/02/2019 :  7:48:56 PM  Show Profile Send sawdust a Private Message  Reply with Quote
what number is under the top lever V?
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matthollar
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Posted - 04/02/2019 :  7:53:31 PM  Show Profile Send matthollar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
45994v7
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sawdust
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Posted - 04/02/2019 :  7:55:24 PM  Show Profile Send sawdust a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1967 salt wood?
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Sasha and Abby
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Posted - 04/03/2019 :  11:57:21 AM  Show Profile Send Sasha and Abby a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matthollar

Meaning?



What you have is a round knob short tang gun... the long tang's tend to have more value to collectors. Still a neat gun.

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where they went."
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matthollar
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Posted - 04/03/2019 :  12:32:44 PM  Show Profile Send matthollar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
THE PRICE IS LIGHTLY NEGOTIABLE.

Edited by - matthollar on 04/03/2019 12:33:39 PM
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matthollar
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Posted - 04/03/2019 :  4:09:56 PM  Show Profile Send matthollar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Iíd also consider a partial trade for a Smith and Wesson revolver

Edited by - matthollar on 04/04/2019 11:17:07 AM
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7cs
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Posted - 04/04/2019 :  11:40:04 AM  Show Profile Send 7cs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matthollar

Iíd also consider a partial trade for a Smith and Wesson revolver



How much cash you willing to throw in?
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matthollar
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Posted - 04/04/2019 :  12:11:40 PM  Show Profile Send matthollar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LOL
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7cs
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Posted - 04/04/2019 :  12:14:38 PM  Show Profile Send 7cs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gotta try.
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matthollar
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Posted - 04/04/2019 :  12:15:41 PM  Show Profile Send matthollar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This shotgun throws as well as any over/under I've ever shot.
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captbass28
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Posted - 05/04/2019 :  9:47:04 PM  Show Profile Send captbass28 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's peaked my interest. Do you know if the wood was salt cured which tended to rust the metal? Browning can tell by the serial numbers I think? Thanks
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matthollar
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Posted - 05/05/2019 :  01:16:05 AM  Show Profile Send matthollar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is no rusting from the wood. The finish that the metal has is a rust blueing. Itís a method not done by many. The finish is in the metal rather than on the surface. There were no rust issues prior to the restoration. The gunsmithing was $1000. It really must be seen to appreciate this shotgun.
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Mixed Nutz
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Posted - 05/05/2019 :  11:56:27 AM  Show Profile Send Mixed Nutz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by captbass28

It's peaked my interest. Do you know if the wood was salt cured which tended to rust the metal? Browning can tell by the serial numbers I think? Thanks



The serial # posted above indicates a 1967 model, 20 guage, O/U shotgun.

According to the Blue Book of Gun Values:

"During late 1966, Browning's salt wood problems began to emerge, and continued until 1972. Most experts have never seen a long tang salt gun, and therefore believe that almost 100% of the salt guns had short tangs. Depending on the damage (it can vary a lot), values for salt damaged guns can be reduced as much as 50% (heavy pitting and original salt wood). Those salt guns that have been restocked by Browning are accepted by the shooting fraternity, and can command as much as 90% of the value of non-salt original guns. To determine if a Superposed has salt damage, examine carefully any gun where the serial number is within the 1966-1971 production range (please refer to the Browning Superposed serialization section), and carefully inspect the wood around the buttplate, forearm, and where the wood joins the receiver metal for any telltale rusting or pitting."


Edited by - Mixed Nutz on 05/05/2019 4:32:26 PM
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sman
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Posted - 05/06/2019 :  08:36:51 AM  Show Profile Send sman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What does the blue book of gun values say about rebluing and refinishing wood affecting the value of a gun?
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matthollar
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Posted - 05/06/2019 :  08:56:10 AM  Show Profile Send matthollar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know, the best thing to do rather than speculate on things would be to look at it with your own eyes and make an educated decision. My gunsmith said itís splitting hairs and that the gun is in perfect working condition and VG in shape.
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captbass28
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Posted - 05/06/2019 :  10:00:58 PM  Show Profile Send captbass28 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with you. I hope to be your way in couple weeks and if you have not sold it will contact you to take a look. Thanks
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Blackfin29
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Posted - 05/16/2019 :  10:59:38 PM  Show Profile Send Blackfin29 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is the gun still available?
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matthollar
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Posted - 05/17/2019 :  10:31:01 AM  Show Profile Send matthollar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've had 2 knowledgeable Browning o/u gunsmiths closely inspect this gun and it is NOT a Salt wood stock.
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matthollar
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Posted - 05/17/2019 :  6:04:00 PM  Show Profile Send matthollar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sold. To a perfectly normal hunter with lots of sense. One word to you trolls that submit unwanted BS advice on something you have no intention of purchasing: get a (**() hobby.
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sman
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Posted - 05/17/2019 :  7:21:55 PM  Show Profile Send sman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My hobby is exposing rip-offs.Why did you advertise as 1960s instead of telling everyone the exact year model.First red flag,haha. I bet you didnít even sell it .
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matthollar
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Posted - 05/18/2019 :  12:15:51 AM  Show Profile Send matthollar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well you fledgling idjit, I got 2000 for it. No thanks to your asinine peeps from the peanut gallery
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Mixed Nutz
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Posted - 05/18/2019 :  08:54:11 AM  Show Profile Send Mixed Nutz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matthollar

Sold. To a perfectly normal hunter with lots of sense. One word to you trolls that submit unwanted BS advice on something you have no intention of purchasing: get a (**() hobby.



I'm not sure who you're directing that towards? But, my post from the Blue Book was an honest answer to captbass28's question about whether the gun had salted wood. The serial # you posted, clearly indicates that the gun came from the factory with salted wood. Whether it was changed by Browning later, who knows? And, I find hard to believe you have an honest gunsmith that would even suggest it didn't come with salted wood?

Do you mind sharing the names of the gunsmiths that advised you on this?

Also, why spend a grand "rust bluing" a gun that, from your, and your "gunsmiths", perspective, had no apparent issues? If, what you, and your "gunsmiths", claim about the gun is true, you definitely transformed it from a, one of a kind, Collectable, to a Shooter!!

I don't think that BS smell lingering around here is coming from the peanut gallery.....

Edited by - Mixed Nutz on 05/18/2019 08:57:33 AM
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