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poly ball
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Posted - 08/13/2019 :  10:08:02 AM  Show Profile Send poly ball a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What happened to the Conservative Republican...?

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/08/12/the-us-budget-deficit-is-up-27percent-and-getting-closer-to-1-trillion.html

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natureboy
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Posted - 08/13/2019 :  11:25:54 AM  Show Profile Send natureboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Trump is spending to repair the crumbling infrastructure he inherited & building up the military that Obamba nearly destroyed
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poly ball
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Posted - 08/13/2019 :  11:31:23 AM  Show Profile Send poly ball a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How is he planning on paying for it? Cut taxes?
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poly ball
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Posted - 08/13/2019 :  11:35:15 AM  Show Profile Send poly ball a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by natureboy

Trump is spending to repair the crumbling infrastructure he inherited & building up the military that Obamba nearly destroyed

He destroyed Bin Laden, what did he do to destroy the military?
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natureboy
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Posted - 08/13/2019 :  12:26:03 PM  Show Profile Send natureboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Show me a photo of Bin Laden's body - you cant. He was suspiciously buried at sea in the night with no photos. You cant even prove that he's dead.
Obamba increased freebie spending and decreased military funding. An ex "community organizer" he loved the SNAP programs! Obamba is praised for getting the most people on food stamps!
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Fred67
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Posted - 08/13/2019 :  1:14:41 PM  Show Profile Send Fred67 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by poly ball

quote:
Originally posted by natureboy

Trump is spending to repair the crumbling infrastructure he inherited & building up the military that Obamba nearly destroyed

He destroyed Bin Laden, what did he do to destroy the military?



Obuma didnít kill osama. Bush got him long ago in one of his caves.
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PalmerScott
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Posted - 08/13/2019 :  1:37:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit PalmerScott's Homepage Send PalmerScott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Poly's right.
Yep. I said it.

When modern national economies collapse it is generally when the debt to GDP ratio goes a little past 100%. We're there. When those who buy our debt begin to worry that we will not be able to pay it back, they stop buying. The slow down in foreign buying US treasuries has already started.

The GOP is useless.
They understand the problem.
But, I think they believe when the collapse happens, they (the elite) will be largely above (buffered from) the calamity. The vast majority of the country will be devastated for a decade or more while the economy digs its way out. $Trillions in wealth will evaporate.

Huge dominoes will fall as we are the world's strongest economy and largest consumers. When we fail, we stop buying everything from everywhere else. They fail almost in lockstep.

And, we only dig out of the mess if we are allowed the time... if the US economy is allow to try to dig it way out. When the reckoning happens, we will be at our most vulnerable. If China or Russia ever want to hit us, that will be when it happens.

History is full of this pattern.
We are asking for a real global scale mess.



Who gives a 5h1t who killed bin laden.
My Dad's gonna beat up your Dad.


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poly ball
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Posted - 08/13/2019 :  1:45:13 PM  Show Profile Send poly ball a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by natureboy

Trump is spending to repair the crumbling infrastructure he inherited & building up the military that Obamba nearly destroyed

How is this stuff gonna get paid for? Cut taxes? HA HA HA
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poly ball
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Posted - 08/13/2019 :  1:46:39 PM  Show Profile Send poly ball a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PalmerScott

Poly's right.
Yep. I said it.

When modern national economies collapse it is generally when the debt to GDP ratio goes a little past 100%. We're there. When those who buy our debt begin to worry that we will not be able to pay it back, they stop buying. The slow down in foreign buying US treasuries has already started.

The GOP is useless.
They understand the problem.
But, I think they believe when the collapse happens, they (the elite) will be largely above (buffered from) the calamity. The vast majority of the country will be devastated for a decade or more while the economy digs its way out. $Trillions in wealth will evaporate.

Huge dominoes will fall as we are the world's strongest economy and largest consumers. When we fail, we stop buying everything from everywhere else. They fail almost in lockstep.

And, we only dig out of the mess if we are allowed the time... if the US economy is allow to try to dig it way out. When the reckoning happens, we will be at our most vulnerable. If China or Russia ever want to hit us, that will be when it happens.

History is full of this pattern.
We are asking for a real global scale mess.



Who gives a 5h1t who killed bin laden.
My Dad's gonna beat up your Dad.


---------------------------
17' Henry O Hornet w/ Johnson 88 spl
26' Palmer Scott project hull
14' Bentz-Craft w/ Yamaha 25


How could conservative Republicans allow this to happen?
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gotchacovered
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  08:23:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit gotchacovered's Homepage Send gotchacovered a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by poly ball

quote:
Originally posted by natureboy

Trump is spending to repair the crumbling infrastructure he inherited & building up the military that Obamba nearly destroyed

How is this stuff gonna get paid for? Cut taxes? HA HA HA


This stuff? You mean like free universal income for all, free college for all, reparations to all African Americans, open borders with free benefits for all foreigners who want to come partake, free Medicare for all, a doubled minimum wage, and all the other things that your beloved Democrats are demanding without a word of criticism from you?

Palmer is one thing, because he's not a partisan hack, but when leftist, hyper-partisan Democrats who support the most insane spending imaginable presume to criticize Republicans for spending, that's just ridiculous. So, please don't presume to be on Palmer's sincerity level. You're not.

But yes, tax cuts can actually lead to a better economy where more revenue is generated. I won't expect you to stop being obtuse to that idea.





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gotchacovered
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  08:37:44 AM  Show Profile  Visit gotchacovered's Homepage Send gotchacovered a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by poly ball

quote:
Originally posted by PalmerScott

Poly's right.
Yep. I said it.

When modern national economies collapse it is generally when the debt to GDP ratio goes a little past 100%. We're there. When those who buy our debt begin to worry that we will not be able to pay it back, they stop buying. The slow down in foreign buying US treasuries has already started.

The GOP is useless.
They understand the problem.
But, I think they believe when the collapse happens, they (the elite) will be largely above (buffered from) the calamity. The vast majority of the country will be devastated for a decade or more while the economy digs its way out. $Trillions in wealth will evaporate.

Huge dominoes will fall as we are the world's strongest economy and largest consumers. When we fail, we stop buying everything from everywhere else. They fail almost in lockstep.

And, we only dig out of the mess if we are allowed the time... if the US economy is allow to try to dig it way out. When the reckoning happens, we will be at our most vulnerable. If China or Russia ever want to hit us, that will be when it happens.

History is full of this pattern.
We are asking for a real global scale mess.



Who gives a 5h1t who killed bin laden.
My Dad's gonna beat up your Dad.


---------------------------
17' Henry O Hornet w/ Johnson 88 spl
26' Palmer Scott project hull
14' Bentz-Craft w/ Yamaha 25


How could conservative Republicans allow this to happen?


Because when you have one side that has the craziest ideas in the world that have proven over and over again to fail and who want to spend 10 times more, let foreigners to partake without any restraint, give them and everyone who doesn't work free income, free Medicare, free college, meritless 100% raises at employers' expense, "fundamentaly transform" America into a Socialist or Communist state, build trillion-dollar high-speed trains, trample religious freedom, make religious dissenters pay for others' abortions, give special privileges to some over others, make kids share school bathrooms with wierdos pretending to be the sex that they aren't, villify Christians for believing in the Bible, sue them for not baking cakes for wedding that defy their religious conscience, sue to keep companies like Boeing from being able to freely plant in non-union states like SC while they also illegally abuse their offices to religiously discriminate against companies like Chic-Fil-A by banning them from their cities, trample Second-Amendment rights, take our property, follow black racist cult leaders like Revrend Wright or Al Sharpton for 20 years, take smiling glamour shots with racist anti-Semitism like Farrakhan, declare all Conservative men instantly guilty if any woman accuses, accuse the cops of a national conspiracy against black people, incite riots and nation-wide violence over mere political beleifs, get rid of all airplanes, boats, and gas/deisel cars and trucks in 10 years, denounce cauliflower as "racist," pretend that terrorists are just "misunderstood," totally adulterated our elections and justice system, out two anti-Semitic Muslims in Congress while demonizing our ally, Israel, make a circus out of the country by advancing the ridiculous "investigation" into the hoax of "Trump-Russian collusion" while sweeping Hillary's obvious crimes, along with truckloads of evidence under the rug, and raise taxes to 70% or more on those they falsely demonize as "rich," all the while, knowing that even a 100% tax wouldn't come close to paying for it all, and our only effective choice is between them and the other side, which is opposed to most of that nonsense and mostly supports common sense but is also very flawed with it comes to spending, well, we choose the latter for obvious reasons. It's what sane people do when the choice is between a group of ultra-extremist partisans who advance the most insane, leftist ideas ever to don the Earth on one hand and some Conservative "old white men" who also like spending too much on the other. Simply put, we just don't want to be a Socialist or Communist authoritarian state, and that's what the left obviously wants us to be. So, we vote to the right. Meanwhile, you who feel like you never, ever have to worry about any of that because you're either so poor that it can only get better, or you're so rich that you'll always be above it, just sit back and keep following the soothing song of the sirens until you days against the shore of shattered principles.

Now, you may carry on with your pot-calling-the-kettle-black routine.



Gotcha Covered,
Lee Strickland
Strickland Marine Insurance Agency, Inc.
https://stricklandmarineinsurance.com
843-795-1000 / 800-446-1862

Edited by - gotchacovered on 08/14/2019 08:58:42 AM
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poly ball
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  09:49:02 AM  Show Profile Send poly ball a Private Message  Reply with Quote
promise some more tax cuts, yeah that's the ticket.......
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Fred67
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  12:45:43 PM  Show Profile Send Fred67 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by poly ball

[quote][i]Originally posted by PalmerScott[/i

The GOP is useless.




Who gives a 5h1t who killed bin laden.
My Dad's gonna beat up your dad



Close to useless but still better than the left. Wish they would quit worrying about a vote and help Trump repeal Obuma care, and build the wall.

I give a sh/t, I hate being lied too.

Maybe dads in bad shape, but my mom can beat your mom and cook a better fried pork chop.

Just like an Asteroid strike, weíll have another recession. Then everyone can blame Trump
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7cs
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  12:52:50 PM  Show Profile Send 7cs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by poly ball

promise some more tax cuts, yeah that's the ticket.......



I donít like it, but given a choice, Iíd rather the debt be run up due to them letting me keep more of my money than them giving it to someone else.
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PalmerScott
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  12:57:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit PalmerScott's Homepage Send PalmerScott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fred67

quote:
Originally posted by poly ball

[quote][i]Originally posted by PalmerScott[/i

The GOP is useless.




Who gives a 5h1t who killed bin laden.
My Dad's gonna beat up your dad



Close to useless but still better than the left. Wish they would quit worrying about a vote and help Trump repeal Obuma care, and build the wall.

I give a sh/t, I hate being lied too.

Maybe dads in bad shape, but my mom can beat your mom and cook a better fried pork chop.

Just like an Asteroid strike, weíll have another recession. Then everyone can blame Trump




Man,..... I LOVE pork chops. Now I'm hungry.....

Point about bin laden is that neither president got him. Our Dept. of Defense got him. Their intelligence. Their hard work on the ground. Their incredible guys that went in and did the deed. So, I care that bin Laden got gotten. But, I don't see it as having much to do with any President.


Hhhhmmmm.... pork chops.... (easily distracted....)



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14' Bentz-Craft w/ Yamaha 25

Edited by - PalmerScott on 08/14/2019 1:03:52 PM
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poly ball
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  1:16:21 PM  Show Profile Send poly ball a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 7cs

quote:
Originally posted by poly ball

promise some more tax cuts, yeah that's the ticket.......



I donít like it, but given a choice, Iíd rather the debt be run up due to them letting me keep more of my money than them giving it to someone else.

Do you have any children?
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7cs
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  1:19:06 PM  Show Profile Send 7cs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by poly ball

quote:
Originally posted by 7cs

quote:
Originally posted by poly ball

promise some more tax cuts, yeah that's the ticket.......



I donít like it, but given a choice, Iíd rather the debt be run up due to them letting me keep more of my money than them giving it to someone else.

Do you have any children?



Yes. Two I have provided for.
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poly ball
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  1:20:44 PM  Show Profile Send poly ball a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So you would prefer to kick the can some more, and let them suffer?
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7cs
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  1:38:10 PM  Show Profile Send 7cs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by poly ball

So you would prefer to kick the can some more, and let them suffer?



No, I donít want to kick it anymore. Do you propose a solution other than repealing tax reform? Iíve yet to hear a liberal concerned about the debt until now.
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poly ball
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  1:51:13 PM  Show Profile Send poly ball a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Taxes should be raised. What was the sensible reason for cutting them? To make trump look good?
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7cs
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  1:54:34 PM  Show Profile Send 7cs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by poly ball

Taxes should be raised. What was the sensible reason for cutting them? To make trump look good?



And cut social programs too?
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poly ball
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  1:58:11 PM  Show Profile Send poly ball a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 7cs

quote:
Originally posted by poly ball

Taxes should be raised. What was the sensible reason for cutting them? To make trump look good?



And cut social programs too?

What was the sensible reason for cutting taxes?
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7cs
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  2:02:46 PM  Show Profile Send 7cs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To let me keep more of my money. Now answer my question.
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poly ball
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  2:07:30 PM  Show Profile Send poly ball a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 7cs

quote:
Originally posted by poly ball

Taxes should be raised. What was the sensible reason for cutting them? To make trump look good?



And cut social programs too?

Cut social security
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poly ball
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  2:09:56 PM  Show Profile Send poly ball a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 7cs

To let me keep more of my money. Now answer my question.

lame. there was no need to cut taxes at the time, and you know it, your greed is showing.
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7cs
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Posted - 08/14/2019 :  2:15:20 PM  Show Profile Send 7cs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by poly ball

quote:
Originally posted by 7cs

To let me keep more of my money. Now answer my question.

lame. there was no need to cut taxes at the time, and you know it, your greed is showing.



So is yours. As long as there are hungry children and you and the rest of your kind arenít doing more, you are the greedy ones. Donít wait on others to do the ďright thingĒ. Lead by example.
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