There is no excuse for this kind of carnage. 
Prayers to all involved and a speedy recovery for all injured.
They just updated to 50 dead and over 200 injured. These people need prayers.
“Why Bruce?”
Up to 400 wounded now and got to believe that 50 dead number will go up a good bit.
Crazy mother F’er. And people wonder why I cringe at the thought of going to a big public gathering during holidays or big event.
News are reporting he had 10 rifles. Not sure how many were autos, but the ones firing sure were. That’s some serious illegal firepower. Curious to her the motive and how he obtained everything just like every other person on earth at the moment.
Prayers for the families. You know there has to be a lot of heart broken moms and dads out there this morning, and probably some kids with 1 or 2 less parents since it is so common to leave kids at home to go party at a concert these days.
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Our hearts go out to all involved as well.
This kind of thing happens all to often. It makes you wonder what is going on inside these peoples’ minds. There are some F****ed up people out there.
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It is NOT illegal for civilians to own full-auto firearms. That’s not to say he didn’t obtain the firearms illegally but it is NOT illegal for a civilian to own a full-auto firearm. It’s not overly common because of how expensive the firearms themselves are and because of the level of regular maintenance they require. Bluntly, most people don’t have the deep pockets required to own full-auto firearms. I know some of the dimwits on several MSM outlets are talking about the “illegal firearms/guns” but as usual, they’re agenda leads them astray from the facts.
I know my comment isn’t inline with the thought behind this thread, and I apologize for that, but it infuriates me when I see people stand on the backs and graves of dead people to spread misinformation.
Again, I apologize for the temporary derailment. My heart breaks to see tragedies like this happen and my prayers go out to everyone impacted by this horrific event.
God bless the “ignore” function.
I’m withholding any of my personal thoughts or opinions about the firearms in this topic until I hear how he obtained them and what his motive was.
Let’s just say I will be shocked if this POS acted alone without any help from a radical organization. And by radical I include extreme left-right, neo-nazi, ISIS, BLM, etc.
“Wailord”
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There is media circulating now that they think the two of them may have been at the concert earlier telling people they were going to die, and they got escorted from the concert.
“Wailord”
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quote:
Originally posted by bangstickIt is NOT illegal for civilians to own full-auto firearms. That’s not to say he didn’t obtain the firearms illegally but it is NOT illegal for a civilian to own a full-auto firearm. It’s not overly common because of how expensive the firearms themselves are and because of the level of regular maintenance they require. Bluntly, most people don’t have the deep pockets required to own full-auto firearms. I know some of the dimwits on several MSM outlets are talking about the “illegal firearms/guns” but as usual, they’re agenda leads them astray from the facts.
I know my comment isn’t inline with the thought behind this thread, and I apologize for that, but it infuriates me when I see people stand on the backs and graves of dead people to spread misinformation.
Again, I apologize for the temporary derailment. My heart breaks to see tragedies like this happen and my prayers go out to everyone impacted by this horrific event.
God bless the “ignore” function.
Bangstick, I just saw what I think may be the spark that lit your comment.
Hitlery: The crowd fled at the sound of gunshots.
Imagine the deaths if the shooter had a silencer, which the NRA wants to make easier to get.
I wish her assistant would snatch her phone out of her hand punch her in the mouth. I guarantee you that person would never have to work again from all the donations in support they would get. What a piece of work.
“Wailord”
1979 17’ Montauk
90 Johnson
Wilderness Ride 115
So sad. 515 injured and 58 dead now…
As I listened to this early this morning it appalled me that some reporters were already using this as an anti gun campaign. Making stuff illegal doesn’t take it away from thugs and perverted humans that wouldn’t get it legally anyways.
This is the time for help and prayers. What triggers a human to commit such atrocities? Heartbreaking.
“Why Bruce?”
quote:
Originally posted by bangstickIt is NOT illegal for civilians to own full-auto firearms. That’s not to say he didn’t obtain the firearms illegally but it is NOT illegal for a civilian to own a full-auto firearm. It’s not overly common because of how expensive the firearms themselves are and because of the level of regular maintenance they require. Bluntly, most people don’t have the deep pockets required to own full-auto firearms. I know some of the dimwits on several MSM outlets are talking about the “illegal firearms/guns” but as usual, they’re agenda leads them astray from the facts.
I know my comment isn’t inline with the thought behind this thread, and I apologize for that, but it infuriates me when I see people stand on the backs and graves of dead people to spread misinformation.
Again, I apologize for the temporary derailment. My heart breaks to see tragedies like this happen and my prayers go out to everyone impacted by this horrific event.
God bless the “ignore” function.
While I agree with the general gist, I would think for someone to have that kind of fire power they have to either own a gun store, or be pretty (**() wealthy. 10 rifles found in the room.
I’m also curious as how you get 10 rifles into there? that’s a big, heavy a$$ duffel bag
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Way more questions than answers at this point.
In particular, was it an actual FA? If so, registered NFA III or illegally obtained (as in the Paris nightclub and other EU Islamic terror attacks)?
What’s this guy’s background? Was he on medication?
“You have the right to the pursuit of happiness. You do not have a guarantee that you shall have it.”
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Originally posted by TheMechanicI’m also curious as how you get 10 rifles into there? that’s a big, heavy a$$ duffel bag
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I read that he checked in on Sep 28. My guess: golf bag, multiple trips (speculation only)
“You have the right to the pursuit of happiness. You do not have a guarantee that you shall have it.”
quote:They just edited the statement, 10 weapons, several long rifles among them.
Originally posted by TheMechanicI’m also curious as how you get 10 rifles into there? that’s a big, heavy a$$ duffel bag
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Geronimo, I didn’t see/read anything from HRC but I did see/hear Tom Brokaw going on about the “illegal guns” the shooter possessed. Like I said, it is NOT illegal for a civilian to own full-auto firearms. That’s not say the shooter didn’t obtain them illegally. Just that it is not illegal to own them. The anti-gun crowd loves to throw that one around because it further demonizes full-auto firearms to the uneducated members of their society. It’s a bit more involved to own full-auto than to buy an AR or a handgun at a gun shop and it most definitely takes deeper pockets than the average firearms enthusiast but it is perfectly legal to own if you pass the rigorous legal process.
Ed, it’s not a matter of “needing” any amount or type of “fire power.” Fact of the matter is, it’s legal. You are correct on the level of wealth one should have to own full-auto firearms. A “cheap” full-auto rifle can still cost $10k (slightly less in some instances, but only slightly). Then, factor in the amount of maintenance they require and the amount of ammo one must possess to get any enjoyment out of owning a full-auto firearm and the hundred dollar bills really stack up. For those that have fired a full-auto firearm, you understand what I mean when I say enjoyment. I’ve never seen anyone shoot a full-auto and not get the biggest smile on their face. One hell of a stress reliever.
Again, I didn’t mean to turn this into a “pro-gun” versus “anti-gun” thread. I just think it’s important to know and speak truths and facts.
ISIS has already come out and claimed responsibility for this attack and claims the shooter recently converted to Islam. Personally, I don’t think they had anything to do with it and this is simply another way for them to get the attention they so desperately want and need. Granted, I don’t know that to be fact but I’m sure we’ll eventually know for sure after the investigation is complete.
God bless the “ignore” function.
quote:Who said anything about needing? I meant just the ability to possess that much. Like the means to acquire. It may be 100% legal, but your average psychopath won't be able to have them legally.
Originally posted by bangstickEd, it’s not a matter of “needing” any amount or type of “fire power.”
I took your comment to mean “why would anyone other than a gun store owner or the wealthy need that kind of fire power.” My mistake and my apologies.
As far as your “average psychopath” comment, if the person in question had been adjudicated mentally defective by a court of law, then they could not legally possess a full-auto firearm, or any firearm for that matter. We know this guy did not have much a criminal past but, at this point, we don’t know if he had a clinically diagnosed mental condition that would keep him from legally purchasing firearms. Granted we all know you can’t be of sound mind to carry out this type of atrocity.
God bless the “ignore” function.
This is where we are:
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Originally posted by 7csThis is where we are:
Disgusted but not surprised.
She has since deleted the comment and shut down her FB page but not before the Daily Caller captured a screen shot of her comments.
To continue their divisive ways, one CNN reported had to make it a point to say “…one thing to keep in mind, a lot of these country music supporters were likely Trump supporters…”
Why does it matter whose “side” you voted for or support??? These were/are Americans that were wounded or murdered while doing nothing but coming together at a venue for a good time. Some people just can’t help but continue to drive a wedge between us and it’s typically the MSM driving the wedge.
God bless the “ignore” function.
What a piece of work.
Double D.