"Creek Rat" 14 ft jon boat build (COMPLETE! 8-23)

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Rapchizzle
"Creek Rat" 14 ft jon boat build (COMPLETE! 8-23)
05/09/12 20:35


After some convincing by Cracker Larry, I got the plans for the GF14 from http://www.bateau.com. I want to build it for inshore fishing and beating around and whatnot so she'll get a work boat finish. My epoxy and fiberglass just got here and I've got my work space set up. I've even got van bench seats for the ladies to come hang out and watch me work. I recently got a fancy camera and am itching to use it so expect quite a few pictures.

I did a rebuild on a 13ft Malibu a couple years ago and that's what really got me inspired to build this new boat. You can check out the pictures at this link (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.528207271695.2030656.46403067&type=3&l=86f489a40c). I plan to make a photo album on my Facebook and use it to host the pictures to post on this here forum.

Now I'm just waiting for that plywood to get here so I can get to building.










-Capt. Chris Rapchick

yella bote
no motor

 

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xxmadfirexx
05/09/12 20:40


Sweet paint job on the utility trailer!

2007 Scout 221 150 Yamaha 4 stroke
LEG3
05/10/12 8:35


gonna need something in that cooler!

JustCUZ
Winner 2011 CF.com Fishing Parlay
Rapchizzle
05/10/12 17:40


http://www.bateau.com/studyplans/GF14_study.htm?prod=GF14

Those are the study plans for the boat I'm building. I just picked up some odds and ends at Home Depot today and am getting the wood for the cleats, runners, rub rails and spray rails tomorrow. After much delibaration on where to put the battery, run the chase tubes, mount the lights and speakers and do it all while making sure nothing gets too exposed to saltwater, I've decided I'm going to keep it simple and do without an electrical system. I'll have some clamp on lights for when I'm running and fishing at night and rechargeable, waterproof, work radio that I can remove when I'm done. I'll save weight, money and time by not worrying about all that because after all, it's just a jon boat so I may wait until I build a bigger boat for all that fancy dancy electrical business....

The transom will be cut for a short shaft motor (~17" depending on make) and I'll be looking for a 15-25 hp 2 stroke late model outboard when I come back to SC.




-Capt. Chris Rapchick

yella bote
no motor
dernflatlander
05/10/12 20:24


There are a lot more 20" motors available than 15", especially electric start. Good luck on your build.
Rapchizzle
05/10/12 20:44


Originally posted by dernflatlander

There are a lot more 20" motors available than 15", especially electric start. Good luck on your build.


This is true and I'm going to hope I can find a short shaft motor but am not ruling out the option of a longer shafted motor. I've got the plans for a small, lightweight, aluminum jackplate in the event I have to go with a 20" (~21+" actual length) motor.





-Capt. Chris Rapchick

yella bote
no motor
Optiker
05/10/12 21:19


Very cool. Im looking forward to following this.

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IM4USC
05/10/12 23:13


Had a dear old friend with a Malibu in the very early 80's...had a lot of fun and learned a lot about inshore fishing in it from him, brings back some wonderful memories.

Checked out the plans and BOM for the bateau...I'm excited about watching the progress of this build and thank you for sharing it with us.

I bet it turns out great, can't wait to watch.

Edit: Pix of the ladies on the van seats watching will be appreciated.
palmettotrooper
05/11/12 0:03


Edit: Pix of the ladies on the van seats watching will be appreciated.

Im with IM4USC!
Cracker Larry
05/11/12 0:29


Chris, ideally you should settle on the motor first and build the transom to fit it. I've found that 15" shaft motors can actually be 16 or 17, and that 20" shafts can be 21 or 22, depending on brands. Or you might even get a deal on a 25", like I did.

Better at this point in your build to let the transom run high. You can cut it down later a lot easier than you can build it up. I had built this one at 20", but ended up with a 25" shaft motor and had to raise the transom. Trust me, it's easier to shorten it than it is to raise it wink



Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
RussB
05/11/12 0:30


"Edit: Pix of the ladies on the van seats watching will be appreciated"


If I know Rap, we Won't be dissapointed!


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Cracker Larry
05/11/12 0:45


I've got the plans for a small, lightweight, aluminum jackplate in the event I have to go with a 20" (~21+" actual length) motor.


Just making suggestions, I know you know boats, but I know this one. It won't be happy with a jack plate because of the set back of weight. As I mentioned in the Bateau forum, these boats are already light in the bow and need some weight forward. Any setback will magnify that. Better to build the transom at 22 now rather than adding height with a jack plate.

The boat will run best with the AV plate about an inch above the bottom so allow for that, also.


Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
Rapchizzle
05/11/12 1:40


That's a good point Larry, I will build the transom at 22" and then see what motor I end up with.

Does anyone have a good source for a rubber rub rail? I'll build a 1 1/2" X 3/4" rub rail along the gunwales, but I know that fiberglass/wood rub rail won't hold up against oyster shells and dock pylons for very long.
Reelescape
05/11/12 17:37


Originally posted by Rapchizzle

That's a good point Larry, I will build the transom at 22" and then see what motor I end up with.

Does anyone have a good source for a rubber rub rail? I'll build a 1 1/2" X 3/4" rub rail along the gunwales, but I know that fiberglass/wood rub rail won't hold up against oyster shells and dock pylons for very long.


Taco rub rails
Cracker Larry
05/11/12 21:40


Rapchizzle
05/15/12 0:32


My plywood came in today and I got to measuring quickly after work. I cut the stern panel of the sides with a fine tooth blade on a 7 1/4" circular saw and found out quickly the blade was dull. I'm not very happy with the cuts but I have no doubt I'll be able to remedy that issue when I start putting everything else together. I then switched to a different blade and the cuts were much better.


My rub rails, spray rails, runners, and cleats all ripped to the correct width. I used 1" x 4"s and 1" x 6"s of Southern Yella Pine and ripped them to the specified widths for each piece.


I'm using Meranti BS6566 and got 4 sheets of 1/4" and 3 sheets of 1/2".



My bow floor all measured out and ready to cut.


My side panels stacked, measured, marked and ready to cut.


This is when I cut the bow side panels. I fine toothed blade was dull so it made cutting hard and I got some pretty crooked and nasty cuts. I figure that with all the extra epoxy and whatnot I ordered, I'll be able to fill it in to the point it's 100% structurally sound and when it's all done, no one will know but me (and you...) about the crappy cuts. I switched over to another sharper blade for the rest of the cuts. I'm not impressed with using the bigger saw and will try to get a smaller one for the rest of the cuts even though I'm pretty much done with most of the curved cuts.


I got my side and bottom panels all lined up with the butt blocks ready for glue.


I have the butt blocks glued and weighted and am looking forward to see how they turn out.


Crooked cuts on the stern side panels.


I found this bad boy floating out in front of our island this afternoon! It's a 110 acre undeveloped barrier island so we get anything and EVERYTHING washing up on our beach. I've found a few plugs, good 5 gal buckets, 1 pair of matching flip flops a couple months apart, message in a bottle, hypodermic needles, etc.
ayejoe1017
05/15/12 7:14


Coming along nicely, thanks for the update.

Now what about those girls everyone's been talking about?



Originally posted by Bolbie

...the harbor was slick as an eel pecker.
Rapchizzle
05/15/12 8:20


Ha right now, it's only a few of us staff members here and we're just getting the camp ready for the kids to come. The new staff arrives this weekend so my attention will be halfway diverted from the build in the evening times.
Rapchizzle
05/16/12 20:51


I tried chiseling it off but wasn't pleased with the job I did. I got the new side panels cut and the new butt blocks glued on this evening. Tomorrow I'll start assembling the pieces of the puzzle and hopefully they'll fit!







I did a much cleaner cut on the side panels this time and am pretty happy with the way they turned out. Also found another good 5 gallon bucket washed up on our island today.
Easy
05/16/12 21:16


OK! What your telling us, is that you are going to be getting a bunch of Summer hire, staff hotties, to fill those seats
jerms
05/17/12 14:49


Keep it up Rap, I love these boat building threads!

I'm very seriously considering starting my own build, the FS18.



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A long long slow walk in the spartina gives you time to think big thoughts and put your mind back into order.
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Cracker Larry
05/17/12 15:12


I'm very seriously considering starting my own build, the FS18.


I'm building an FS18 now, if you have any questions about it I'm glad to help.

Capt. Larry Teuton
Cracker Built Custom Boats
Rapchizzle
05/17/12 17:36


Originally posted by jerms

Keep it up Rap, I love these boat building threads!

I'm very seriously considering starting my own build, the FS18.


Do it! I'll be moving back to Charleston in September and will be itching to help with the whole process. That'd be a great boat for around the Lowcountry. I was also looking at the FS18, OB17 (cut down and built more like a bay boat), or the PH22 one day down the line.
jerms
05/18/12 10:20


If I decide to do it, I will probably wait until this winter to start. Too busy right now to begin a project of that magnitude, and I'll be headed back down to Antarctica in late September for a few months.




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A long long slow walk in the spartina gives you time to think big thoughts and put your mind back into order.
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Rapchizzle
05/23/12 0:11


I was able to get the rest of the cleats glued, extra partitions and cleats for the foamed compartments cut and the rub rails glued today. All of our staff is here now and we've been pretty heavy into the staff training so I've been quite busy!










The cleats are glued and cut in the bow platform. I need to install and glue a backing for the bow eye and bow line cleat shortly.


Also, Zman baits donated a few boxes of lures, dredges, skirts, plastic ballyhoo, squids, and more to us down here at the Florida Sea Base! We're ever thankful and I can't wait to start dragging these bad boys next week! It's always good when a such a great company is so generous for a good cause.





barbawang
05/23/12 17:52


yeah, that dude sitting on your van seat leaves a little to be desired after the read, but aside from that, this thread is cool.
Phin
05/23/12 19:39


Page two, rapper capt.

Keep it up!



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Rapchizzle
05/27/12 14:55


I've gotten my motorwell, midseat and bow compartment pieces cut and cleats glued and are cleaning them up with the sander today. I flipped the hull and put the bottom on, and it was only a little bit off but i was able to get everything lined up and shaped up enough for my liking. I also added two strips of 3/4" x 1 1/2" SYP to the bow transom to continue the rub rail around the front as I find that I like to run into stuff like docks, piers, pylons, etc. I'm getting it shaped up and filling in all my screw holes with epoxy glue today and hopefully will be ready to lay the inside glass this week.







not too much of a gap between the sides and bottom.



put the bottom on, taped it, screwed it and it fits!



Small gap between the bow transom and the bow platform



gluing cleat on the bow compartment divider for the foam and the extra rubrail on the bow so I can ram ****.







One of my buddies OD'ed and passed away yesterday so having today off and a little boat building has helped me keep my mind on more positive things. It's a terrible situation and I know his family has been going through tough times lately. I just hope this is a wake up call to some of our other friends to get their act together and clean it up. He had been getting everything straight for a while and just made a stupid mistake.
Cltdeerhunter
05/28/12 20:41


I love those homemade clamps. I will keep that in mind.

Cliff
2006 pioneer 197 SF 150 4s
BOSN
06/03/12 10:17


Saw the finished product. Nice job! That boat will see some flats!


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Rapchizzle
06/16/12 22:43


I've been pretty busy since my last posting. I've got the interior glassed and sanded and about ready for fairing this next week. I've got my hatches cut in the bow compartment and mid seat (next round of pictures...) and the drains cut and I'm close to glassing the PVC ripped in half to the deck under the compartments. I've got a can of Bilgekote for the bow hatch, midseat and rear hatch. Instead of putting the fuel tank in the bow as I had planned before, I've decided to keep it in the middle seat accessible from the stern. I got a water tight, locking hatch for the rear deck and have my motor well and foam compartments about ready to be finished. I've been covered in fiberglass dust for the past week and it SUCKS!
















mhebbard
06/21/12 10:36


Looks good! I saw a cheap short shaft motor on CL and PM'ed you the link. Dont know if you had power for this bad boy or not yet. Keep up the good work -
Black Bart
06/21/12 11:06


Rapchizzle,

The boat looks awesome! Serious question, though: what made you decide to build a jon boat vs. just purchasing an aluminum one? Will the wood last exponentially longer than aluminum? It seems like the aluminum would be much cheaper and obviously less time-consuming. Are you adding some "custom" features to the boat, or is it just a project you've been wanting to do? Thanks in advance, as I look forward to your feedback.
Rapchizzle
06/21/12 15:16


Well, to be honest, I've got the time, just enough money and the tools and wanted a project. When it's complete, the boat will be better built, just as light (if not lighter), and cheaper than a production fiberglass or aluminum boat. I've had both aluminum and fiberglass boats before and have taken aspects from both of those to incorporate into my build. This boat will be set up to fish 2 people comfortably and will be less likely to rust and corrode than an aluminum boat. If I were to buy a brand new aluminum boat, I'd be paying more for a bare bones metal boat than I'll have into this thing.
RussB
06/21/12 16:51


Lookin good Rap. Those little gaps,,, nothing some thickened epoxy won't take care of!

I think a lot of building ones own boat has to with the self satisfication and knowing what went into the boat and how it's constructed.

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Rapchizzle
07/14/12 22:32

















JimIslander
07/14/12 23:09


Chris,

Thanks for all the great photos and detailed write up. This has become a tutorial for all to see. I bet many people who never thought they could build a boat will catch the fever and build something for themselves.

Thanks!
Mick

Tidewater 196DC
Yamaha F115
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Pungo 120
Cabdella77
07/15/12 8:27


Looks great, I showed this to my wife and said I wanna do this, no was the reply, so keep up the good work and thanks for the pics
PeaPod
07/16/12 13:53


Originally posted by JimIslander

Chris,

Thanks for all the great photos and detailed write up. This has become a tutorial for all to see. I bet many people who never thought they could build a boat will catch the fever and build something for themselves.

Thanks!
Mick

Tidewater 196DC
Yamaha F115
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Pungo 120



ditto. thank you
Rapchizzle
08/23/12 16:41


She's complete! I used 3 coats of "Gripper" primer and 3 coats of tan "Concrete and Garage paint"with some antislip on the horizontal surfaces. The rod holders, cleats, seat bracket, etc went in today and I'm calling it good enough. Of course, there will always be little things I can do down the line but that's half the fun of owning a boat! The fire hose was a pain to put on as a rubrail. I fee as if I had used a loooooot more PVC clampsand done it all at once, it would have turned out a hundred times better. I was short on clamps so I glued the vertical surface and once it was cured, I did the horizontal surface. Lesson learned. I got my hands on a free piece of black starboard perfectly sized for my backing plate for the bow cleat. We've apparently got a hurricane or something headed our way down here in the Keys so I've gotta skeedaddle so the exterior paint job will wait until I get home and get some and space to do so.













Phin
08/23/12 17:01


Man this looks great Chris. Hope I can fish out of it one day with you.

You are rite to be proud of your boat.




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RussB
08/23/12 17:26


Agreed, looks great Chris! Job well done for sure.

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Easy
08/23/12 19:29


I only have one problem with this build! I really like your boat, but didn't you promise us when you started, that you would have some good looking honeys sitting around on car seats watching? I have looked and looked and can't find one in your pictures!saddead
yakman72
08/23/12 20:01


That's a sweet boat! Is that the gas tank under the middle bench seat? Where are you running the wires to the engine? The bulb so you can prime it? I'm also building a 14 "creek rat" although mine's called the redfish reaper. I'm starting a thread and will keep yall updated. Where did you get those rodholders? Rap, ill PM you if I have any more questions?

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11' Tarpon 100
19' Sea Fox 125 merc
Pluffdaddy
08/23/12 20:19


Good for you seeing this project through. Looks good.
Rapchizzle
08/23/12 20:37


The gas tank is going to be kept under the middle bench seat. The fuel line will be run along the port side of the boat behind the rod holders. I got all of the road holders and hardware from Port Supply (West Marine) through the camp I'm working at.

I'll try to help as much as I can with any questions.
orangecrush
09/06/12 21:17


Really enjoyed reading this build. Awesome job. Its really inspirational.
Skrimpdaddy
10/01/12 17:00


What did the message in the bottle say?

"I fish therefore I lie"

2006 Mckee Craft 185 Bay Classic 150 Yamaha
Skrimpdaddy
10/01/12 17:04


That is the nicest home build I have ever seen.

"I fish therefore I lie"

2006 Mckee Craft 185 Bay Classic 150 Yamaha
elgeebee
10/01/12 17:24


Excellent job!

-Lewis
penfishn
10/06/12 8:09


Chris...that s really cool!! Good job! Donnie was quite impressed too!



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Rapchizzle
03/12/13 17:48


This bad boy (with a trailer) might be up for grabs very soon. Interested parties should PM me
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