defunding the Police

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Fred67
defunding the Police
06/06/20 15:36


Y'all heard the latest knee Jerk B.S.? Our big Democratic led cities are actually listening to the thugs begging to do away with all Police! Can you imagine the anarchy that would ensue if our Police officers were done a way with? These are the men and women that know these communities better than anyone and the thugs want to have them removed. Why? To commit more crime, not because they are scared of them. How about some Federal funding for training even more officers to put in these areas. These thugs with the bully pulpit of the Main Stream media and the unwarranted "glorification" of the Floyd tragedy, are trying to convince America that ALL law officers are bad. I remember Clinton saying that he would provide money and training for law officers when he had the huge reduction in the Military (do more with less), never happened.

Maybe if we had more standardized Training for all Law officers and increased their presence in troubled neighborhoods, things like the Floyd tragedy wouldn't happen. Lord knows we needed more officer to STOP the Looting and Rioting that they were told to let happen by their elected leaders.

 

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claim
06/06/20 16:02


It would be like Mogadishu in a matter of days. Maybe we should let them defund and disband at least one major city police department so they can see for themselves our eff'n stupid they are.

But of course...they'd blame Trump for all the murder and chaos that'd ensue.


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7cs
06/06/20 16:24


This is a publicity stunt. Most of the idiots calling for this depend on LE protection. On the other hand, other than some innocent’s dying, the trash would take itself out.
sman
06/06/20 17:29


Haha Yea,that’s a great idea,need to put a case of gin and a case of loaded.38s on every corner before the police pull out.
Beaufort Boy
06/06/20 20:00


I think it's more to do with demilitarizing the police force (militarizing started happening after 9/11) and spending the money on mental health/drug rehab/etc. Still needs lots of police on the ground, just not with massive amounts of full auto weapons and tank-like vehicles.


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Bayrider
06/06/20 20:52


I think it's more to do with demilitarizing the police force (militarizing started happening after 9/11) and spending the money on mental health/drug rehab/etc. Still needs lots of police on the ground, just not with massive amounts of full auto weapons and tank-like vehicles.


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Originally posted by Beaufort Boy


Good point

https://ammo.com/articles/police-militarization-weapons-of-war-darpa-surveillance

but I see no reversal most likely people will look to escape the dem controlled cities where they perceive the problems are.

The only way to quell this crap is Frank Rizzo style but look at which direction it’s going.....
Bayrider
06/07/20 11:00


Should this be your opinion?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/05/nolte-the-lefts-eating-itself-let-them-fight/

or would it just leave a vacuum for a new social justice warrior?
Fred67
06/07/20 14:09


Should this be your opinion?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/05/nolte-the-lefts-eating-itself-let-them-fight/

or would it just leave a vacuum for a new social justice warrior?Originally posted by Bayrider


That's a pretty interesting read. Too long we as a Nation become soft on crime. Gonna be hard to rain in the Rioters and Looters with our current media and Democratic leaders telling people it's ok to express yourself through looting and rioting.

Fred67
06/07/20 14:26


I think it's more to do with demilitarizing the police force (militarizing started happening after 9/11) and spending the money on mental health/drug rehab/etc. Still needs lots of police on the ground, just not with massive amounts of full auto weapons and tank-like vehicles.


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Originally posted by Beaufort Boy


I guess I don't see the Full auto and Military weapons you are talking about, but with todays mobs and their mindset of total destruction of Property why not give our Police weapons to handle these Domestic Terrorists when the situation arises? From all the news I've been watching the Dem leaders are not doing as you are suggesting and keeping lots of Police on the Ground. They want their presence GONE. Weapons or no.

I'm still thinking a Federaly funded Cookie cutter Full on Training Camp for ALL law enforcement officers. With Strong Teachings in understanding the diversity in People they will be encountering and how to diffuse a volatile situation. We also need to have more Presence in Media coverage showing all the Fantastic Officers we have and the POSITIVE influence they can make in a community. All our media wants to do is focus on the bad apples through sensationalism and the money it brings them in ratings. Our media is nothing but a Hollywood movie script with all the outlets on the same page with hate for our President and anything/one against Socialism.
Beaufort Boy
06/07/20 15:04


The U.S. is not soft on crime. Our country has had the largest incarceration rate in the world. We have something like 5% of the worlds population, but have around 22% of the worlds prisoners.

And the federal police training camp that Fred is talking about sounds like a great idea.




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jsauls1
06/07/20 15:07


From what i saw on tv, it looks like the law enforcement needs more fire power. Punish the man, not the badge.


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Fred67
06/08/20 10:35




And the federal police training camp that Fred is talking about sounds like a great idea.




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Originally posted by Beaufort Boy


I was talking with some friends yesterday about this issue. Didn't think it through. If we handed our Training over to the Feds, it would take a lot away from Individual State Rights and bring Big Brother one step closer to controlling us completely. Might end up with a more Militarized Police force? It would be hard to do "standardized" training when all our states have different laws. Maybe just have some mandatory Mental screenings for all our Officers by Federally non biased group?

Easy to arm chair things. I still find it hard to believe many large cities have even considered the idea of a smaller Police presence after all these looters and rioters have proven they can't be left alone if business are going to thrive. They will just destroy them. I want to know who is behind the planted bricks and frozen water bottles. If it proves to be an organization they need to be declared Domestic Terrorists.
Bayrider
06/08/20 13:27




And the federal police training camp that Fred is talking about sounds like a great idea.




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Originally posted by Beaufort Boy


I was talking with some friends yesterday about this issue. Didn't think it through. If we handed our Training over to the Feds, it would take a lot away from Individual State Rights and bring Big Brother one step closer to controlling us completely. Might end up with a more Militarized Police force? It would be hard to do "standardized" training when all our states have different laws. Maybe just have some mandatory Mental screenings for all our Officers by Federally non biased group?

Easy to arm chair things. I still find it hard to believe many large cities have even considered the idea of a smaller Police presence after all these looters and rioters have proven they can't be left alone if business are going to thrive. They will just destroy them. I want to know who is behind the planted bricks and frozen water bottles. If it proves to be an organization they need to be declared Domestic Terrorists. Originally posted by Fred67


Google what both Obamas have said about it. Hillary has her RESIST force. Biden is pandering and Soros has the funding. The mediocrats are stuck on stupid with “Peaceful Protesters “. All suffering from Orange Man Bad TDS.
Bayrider
06/08/20 13:59


Hey Trump, try this, what do you have to lose?

c/p Abolish Public Unions Entirely

Union leaders have a mandated goal of protecting bad cops, bad teachers, and corrupt politicians. Unions blackmail politicians and threaten the public they are supposed to serve.

Union leaders will do anything to stay in power, the kids and the public be damned.

The only way to deal with the situation is to "effectively" abolish public unions entirely.

The key word is effectively. What do I mean by that? Take away 100% of their power as opposed to ending their right of association.

https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/economics/why-its-impossible-to-get-rid-of-bad-cops

Richard Beer Froth
06/08/20 16:08



I was talking with some friends yesterday about this issue. Didn't think it through. If we handed our Training over to the Feds, it would take a lot away from Individual State Rights and bring Big Brother one step closer to controlling us completely. Might end up with a more Militarized Police force? It would be hard to do "standardized" training when all our states have different laws. Maybe just have some mandatory Mental screenings for all our Officers by Federally non biased group?

Easy to arm chair things. I still find it hard to believe many large cities have even considered the idea of a smaller Police presence after all these looters and rioters have proven they can't be left alone if business are going to thrive. They will just destroy them. I want to know who is behind the planted bricks and frozen water bottles. If it proves to be an organization they need to be declared Domestic Terrorists. Originally posted by Fred67


Yep Alfredo, your natural first thoughts and leanings are Democrat/Liberal...

Haha...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pelosi-top-democrats-unveil-police-144356048.html

c/p:
A training program would be created under the bill that would cover racial bias and duty to intervene, and the measure would require that police officers use deadly force only as a last resort and use de-escalation techniques. The measure would also create a federal registry for misconduct complaints and disciplinary actions against police officers.


Alfredo, you'll be "Ridin w/ Biden" before the summer is over... Liberal at heart...wink





RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Bayrider
06/08/20 17:39


Fred67
06/08/20 17:45





Yep Alfredo, your natural first thoughts and leanings are Democrat/Liberal...

Haha...





Alfredo, you'll be "Ridin w/ Biden" before the summer is over... Liberal at heart...wink



Originally posted by Richard Beer Froth


Why the Ha ha ha? What is it that you find funny? That we have Democratic leaders wanting to disband our Police force? I believe many youths are liberal from the start, then age and have the wisdom to be conservative.

As usual nothing to add but your demented disorder of twisted replies through many faces. You still holding onto the lie that you are a Republican?

Ridin with Biden? That's even past your normal twist. Never happen, no matter how wet it would make you. What is really sad is the simple fact you are toying with the idea that someone like myself would even consider Biden a viable leader for our Country. I know it's just your sick way of trying to get under my skin, but using Biden to do it? Shame on you.

You try to come across like you have some sort of education and try to assume you are smarter than many on this sight, if that is remotely true then why can't you see how devastating Biden would be to our Country? Won't hold my breath expecting you to give a civil answer.

Edit... Deadly force has been a "last resort" tactic for many years, just in case your girl Pelosi didn't know it.
poly ball
06/08/20 17:55





Yep Alfredo, your natural first thoughts and leanings are Democrat/Liberal...

Haha...





Alfredo, you'll be "Ridin w/ Biden" before the summer is over... Liberal at heart...wink



Originally posted by Richard Beer Froth


Why the Ha ha ha? What is it that you find funny? That we have Democratic leaders wanting to disband our Police force? I believe many youths are liberal from the start, then age and have the wisdom to be conservative.

As usual nothing to add but your demented disorder of twisted replies through many faces. You still holding onto the lie that you are a Republican?

Ridin with Biden? That's even past your normal twist. Never happen, no matter how wet it would make you. What is really sad is the simple fact you are toying with the idea that someone like myself would even consider Biden a viable leader for our Country. I know it's just your sick way of trying to get under my skin, but using Biden to do it? Shame on you.

You try to come across like you have some sort of education and try to assume you are smarter than many on this sight, if that is remotely true then why can't you see how devastating Biden would be to our Country? Won't hold my breath expecting you to give a civil answer.

Edit... Deadly force has been a "last resort" tactic for many years, just in case your girl Pelosi didn't know it. Originally posted by Fred67


Hate to break it to you pal....but more and more decorated military personnel are all saying the same words. Trump is a liar.

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/colin-powell-endorses-biden-says-trump-is-a-liar-and-a-danger-to-the-nation-1.632815

Colin Powell, a former secretary of state and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Sunday that he would vote for Joe Biden in November because President Donald Trump has “drifted away” from the Constitution, is a chronic liar and is “dangerous to our country.”

In a blistering interview with Jake Tapper on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Powell added his voice to a string of retired generals, admirals and Pentagon chiefs who have denounced Trump since his threats to use troops to break up nationwide protests over the killing of George Floyd at the hands of police in Minneapolis.

“We have a Constitution,” Powell said. “And we have to follow that Constitution. And the president has drifted away from it. I’m so proud of what these generals and admirals have done, and others have done.”

The former secretary of state called Trump — who has shown disdain for diplomacy and long-standing U.S. allies and has demonized immigrants — a liar who has harmed America’s moral authority.
Fred67
06/08/20 18:11





Hate to break it to you pal....but more and more decorated military personnel are all saying the same words. Trump is a liar.


.Originally posted by poly ball


Ok, what did he lie about? I don't think it is so much about lies as it is about him pizzing people off for doing the right thing and the media twisting his words a hundred different ways to suit their agenda of Trump bashing. I don't see a problem in bringing in our military to the bigger cities were the Democratic leaders pulled back police and let the mobs loot and terrorize our Citizens. That is nothing but Domestic terrorism and our Military is sworn to protect us from it.

Go ahead vote for Biden, but tell me one good thing he can do other than fulfill your dream of Trump no longer our President? Ya'll tried to impeach Trump for a suspected allegation that Biden did on National T.V. and laughed about doing it?! Don't be such a hypocrite. Did you know W.H.O is doing clinical trials with good results on the Wuhan virus using.....hydroxychloroquine Don't hear that in the media with all the Trump hate speech.
poly ball
06/08/20 18:23


General Mattis had a few choice words for the orange asshole-in-chief!

Former Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis, who has largely kept silent on President Donald Trump, issued a blistering statement Wednesday criticizing him and even suggesting he's a threat to the US Constitution in a call for Americans to come together to oppose his actions following George Floyd's death.

"I have watched this week's unfolding events, angry and appalled," Mattis said in a statement given to The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg. He said Trump was actively trying to divide the nation.

"Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us," the widely respected former Marine Corps general wrote. "We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership."

"We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society," he continued. "This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children."

poly ball
06/08/20 18:26


General Kelly, a few choice words as well.....

WASHINGTON —“I think we need to look harder at who we elect and I think we should start, all of us, regardless of what our views are of politics, I think we should look at people running for office and put them through the filter, what is their character like, what are their ethics and if elected, are they willing to represent all of their constituents and not just their base,” Kelly said.


Former White House chief of staff John Kelly said Friday that he did not agree with President Donald Trump’s threat to deploy active-duty U.S. military as the nation braced for another week of planned protests over the death of George Floyd.

“The troops hate it, they don’t see it as their job, they don’t want to be used in that way,” Kelly told Anthony Scaramucci, former White House communications director, during a livestreamed interview. “Now, natural disasters are a different story, hurricanes, earthquakes, we lean forward in the U.S. military to help,” he added, saying that the civil unrest in the United States are “domestic issues.”

Kelly, who also served as the secretary of Homeland Security in the Trump administration, reiterated the importance of preserving the Department of Defense’s apolitical nature.

“We have always attempted to be apolitical,” explained Kelly, a retired four-star Marine Corps general. “And we think that’s important because the U.S. military serves the nation, all of its people, not a party, not a political persuasion, not an individual.”

Bob 241
06/08/20 18:53


These fine men will be made into azz holes now by Fred and the other riff raff on here.


BOB
Richard Beer Froth
06/08/20 19:43


These fine men will be made into azz holes now by Fred and the other riff raff on here.


BOBOriginally posted by Bob 241


Here it comes.... "Deep State" in 3-2-1....


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Richard Beer Froth
06/08/20 19:53



Why the Ha ha ha? What is it that you find funny? That we have Democratic leaders wanting to disband our Police force? I believe many youths are liberal from the start, then age and have the wisdom to be conservative.

As usual nothing to add but your demented disorder of twisted replies through many faces. You still holding onto the lie that you are a Republican?

Ridin with Biden? That's even past your normal twist. Never happen, no matter how wet it would make you. What is really sad is the simple fact you are toying with the idea that someone like myself would even consider Biden a viable leader for our Country. I know it's just your sick way of trying to get under my skin, but using Biden to do it? Shame on you.

You try to come across like you have some sort of education and try to assume you are smarter than many on this sight, if that is remotely true then why can't you see how devastating Biden would be to our Country? Won't hold my breath expecting you to give a civil answer.

Edit... Deadly force has been a "last resort" tactic for many years, just in case your girl Pelosi didn't know it. Originally posted by Fred67


Haha was about you thinking just like the Dems which doesn't surprise me based on your voting record...

The rest of your post is nonsense...

Let's see.... In 2016 Hilliary was the worst thing that could happen, and now in 2020 Biden is so bad you stated you would vote for Hilliary over Biden... So, IF Biden wins, then will you concede that you should have voted for Hilliary in 2016? Also, IF Biden wins, will you back your new President and call for all other Drumpf loyalists with a passionate plea to support Biden since he is your President?


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
7cs
06/08/20 19:59


Disorder.
Richard Beer Froth
06/08/20 20:00


Good start to the week... Cha-ching! bigsmile


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Richard Beer Froth
06/08/20 20:07


Alfredo, looks like you can be "Ridin with Biden" guilt free now...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/politics/joe-biden-defund-the-police/index.html


Come on out of the closet, Alfredo... You'll feel better about yourself, and not be so grumpy all the time.... wink


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Fred67
06/08/20 21:35




Haha was about you thinking just like the Dems which doesn't surprise me based on your voting record...

T

Let's see.... In 2016 Hilliary was the worst thing that could happen, and now in 2020 Biden is so bad you stated you would vote for Hilliary over Biden... So, IF Biden wins, then will you concede that you should have voted for Hilliary in 2016? Also, IF Biden wins, will you back your new President and call for all other Drumpf loyalists with a passionate plea to support Biden since he is your President?


RBF

[ Originally posted by Richard Beer Froth


Man you love twisting things to suit yourself. My voting record?, more like your broken record. You need some new matterial.

Yea you got it all right RBF. no need arguing anymore. No matter you'll twist it worse than a broke back snake with your many faces. I'll support Biden just like I would have Obuma or Clinton if he gets elected.... I'd give my life defending a U.S. President. Bet you can't say the same. . Passionate plea? Go smoke another bowl.

Trump in 2020!
Fred67
06/08/20 21:42


These fine men will be made into azz holes now by Fred and the other riff raff on here.


BOBOriginally posted by Bob 241


I'm sure you would like that, since I'm the lowest of the low because I voted for Trump and will do so again in 2020. Sorry to disappoint you. ~

GO TRUMP! 2020
poly ball
06/08/20 21:50


So Fred .....you agree with General Colin Powell, General James Mattis, and General John Kelly? ( White House Chief of Staff 2017-2019)
Richard Beer Froth
06/08/20 21:56



Man you love twisting things to suit yourself. My voting record?, more like your broken record. You need some new matterial.

Yea you got it all right RBF. no need arguing anymore. No matter you'll twist it worse than a broke back snake with your many faces. I'll support Biden just like I would have Obuma or Clinton if he gets elected.... I'd give my life defending a U.S. President. Bet you can't say the same. . Passionate plea? Go smoke another bowl.

Trump in 2020!Originally posted by Fred67


So, you would jump in front a bullet for Biden if he wins? Pretty hard to prove, and much less to believe... Let's be honest, you had for years a avatar of calvin pissing on Obama posted here... First you vote for Dems, and then you hate them.... You and Bayrider outta go have lunch...


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Bayrider
06/08/20 22:35


Richard Beer Froth
06/08/20 22:58


Drumpf loved the Clintons, before he hated them...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmqp0r7oujg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtplCupGxZA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7BsXluIq-0

Many more...

How about all the Republicans that hated Drumpf and then fell in line for partisan purposes... Sellouts fo sho...






RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Fred67
06/08/20 23:12





First you vote for Dems, and then you hate them.... You and Bayrider outta go have lunch...


RBF

[ Originally posted by Richard Beer Froth


Let's get one thing straight many faces. I voted for a sheriff running on a democratic ticket. I don't vote for Dems (plural) quit being such an freaking ass hole. Can you do that? I guess I'm now in your cross hairs. So be it. As this avatar says you are a Dick Head, what about your other avatars? Still a dick head? or just further kicking the ant nest?

I'd be happy to have lunch with Bay when the time is right. Thought maybe I would with you as well, but I think that may have passed.
poly ball
06/08/20 23:18


Richard Beer Froth
06/08/20 23:35



Let's get one thing straight many faces. I voted for a sheriff running on a democratic ticket. I don't vote for Dems (plural) quit being such an freaking ass hole. Can you do that? I guess I'm now in your cross hairs. So be it. As this avatar says you are a Dick Head, what about your other avatars? Still a dick head? or just further kicking the ant nest?

I'd be happy to have lunch with Bay when the time is right. Thought maybe I would with you as well, but I think that may have passed. Originally posted by Fred67



Sorry Alfredo, you have a selective memory.... You are already on record saying you have voted for a FEW democrats... Looks like you are trying to walk it back, or are you just lying?

Here is your post:



Maybe he liked the candidate? I've voted for a few Democrats. I must say I'm more for the Republicans and have grown to loathe most modern Democrats.. The entitlement mentality and dumbing down our schools (most of em anyway) are teaching these days is just a setup for future failure... Failure that I don't need if I want to retire at a reasonable age.

"If Bruce Jenner can keep his wiener and be called a woman, I can keep my firearms and be considered disarmed."Originally posted by Fred67



Here is the thread link...

https://www.charlestonfishing.com/forums/Topic/Posts/165709?pagenum=1&archived=0&terms=once%2Bvoted%2Bdemocrat




RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Off the chain
06/08/20 23:52


I've got a snowbird neighbor. His son-in-law is a Virginia cop. He served 6 years in the army. He was a guard at the tomb of the unknown soldier.He comes in a couple times a year and I always take him fishing.
Some of the stories he tells me are unbelievable but I know they're true. I don't know what would possess somebody to want to be a cop.
He's been spit on. Had $#it throne on him, been stabbed run over and dragged by a car. Had a girl stabb herself in the hand just to sling blood on him.
How would you react if someone did something like that to you???

And as far as President Trump being friends with the clintons and donating money. I guess he knows how to play the game. I wonder what he got in return??


I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.
Fred67
06/08/20 23:53


So Fred .....you agree with General Colin Powell, General James Mattis, and General John Kelly? ( White House Chief of Staff 2017-2019)Originally posted by poly ball


Polly, I respect all posted. To become a General in our Military is no small task. They did not want to use military force to quell the violence. I'd be with them if the Local officials would not have pulled back Local Police and let the natives run rampant through the streets destroying their own local businesses. Something needed to be done. Trump suggested using Military personnel. Why was that so bad? PLEASE answer that one.

Why do you think Trump was wrong in logistics of using our Military to squash Domestic Terrorism? Maybe these General you have posted were wrong in their thinking? To be human is to err.
Fred67
06/09/20 0:04


Bayrider
06/09/20 0:11


Democrats are better at solving dissension

Branch Davidians

Ruby Ridge

Lavoy Finicum

Monica Lewinski



Bayrider
06/09/20 0:37


Extreme Pandering Backfire

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/clown-show-jerry-nadler-struggles-take-off-face-mask-places-podium-video/

they’re too stupid to even know what they’ve done

https://twitter.com/obianuju/status/1270053042340139008

they should of poll tested before getting orders from demented Joe and Nancy

better check Trump’s black voters poll again in 24 hours it will be huuuuuuuggggggeeeee!
DoubleN
06/09/20 1:05



Let's get one thing straight many faces. I voted for a sheriff running on a democratic ticket. I don't vote for Dems (plural) quit being such an freaking ass hole. Can you do that? I guess I'm now in your cross hairs. So be it. As this avatar says you are a Dick Head, what about your other avatars? Still a dick head? or just further kicking the ant nest?

I'd be happy to have lunch with Bay when the time is right. Thought maybe I would with you as well, but I think that may have passed. Originally posted by Fred67



Sorry Alfredo, you have a selective memory.... You are already on record saying you have voted for a FEW democrats... Looks like you are trying to walk it back, or are you just lying?

Here is your post:



Maybe he liked the candidate? I've voted for a few Democrats. I must say I'm more for the Republicans and have grown to loathe most modern Democrats.. The entitlement mentality and dumbing down our schools (most of em anyway) are teaching these days is just a setup for future failure... Failure that I don't need if I want to retire at a reasonable age.

"If Bruce Jenner can keep his wiener and be called a woman, I can keep my firearms and be considered disarmed."Originally posted by Fred67



Here is the thread link...

https://www.charlestonfishing.com/forums/Topic/Posts/165709?pagenum=1&archived=0&terms=once%2Bvoted%2Bdemocrat




RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Originally posted by Richard Beer Froth


Oh Chit, Fred is busted....

As most know, the Dems are not in anyway what they used to be, as Fred eluded to when you read beyond your highlight. Many current republicans voted for Dems years ago.

Carry on with the BS. Typical maneuver.

NN
Richard Beer Froth
06/09/20 1:33



Oh Chit, Fred is busted....

As most know, the Dems are not in anyway what they used to be, as Fred eluded to when you read beyond your highlight. Many current republicans voted for Dems years ago.

Carry on with the BS. Typical maneuver.

NNOriginally posted by DoubleN


There will be current Repukes that vote for Biden too becuse Drumpf is an idiot and a disgrace...

The Dems haven't changed that much, and that is a sorry excuse as to why Alfredo voted for them.. I have never voted for a Dem...

Alfredo brags about how honest he is, and essentially he is a liar and "shapes" his narrative to whatever he is arguing at the time regardless of what he has stated in the past... Unfortunately for Alfredo, he has a terrible memory and can't keep up with his lies... Actually, Alfredo can't keep up with what others have stated either which causes him to look foolish with many of his responses...

Shame on you Alfredo...wink




RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
DoubleN
06/09/20 1:40



Oh Chit, Fred is busted....

As most know, the Dems are not in anyway what they used to be, as Fred eluded to when you read beyond your highlight. Many current republicans voted for Dems years ago.

Carry on with the BS. Typical maneuver.

NNOriginally posted by DoubleN


There will be current Repukes that vote for Biden too becuse Drumpf is an idiot and a disgrace...

The Dems haven't changed that much, and that is a sorry excuse as to why Alfredo voted for them.. I have never voted for a Dem...

Alfredo brags about how honest he is, and essentially he is a liar and "shapes" his narrative to whatever he is arguing at the time regardless of what he has stated in the past... Unfortunately for Alfredo, he has a terrible memory and can't keep up with his lies... Actually, Alfredo can't keep up with what others have stated either which causes him to look foolish with many of his responses...

Shame on you Alfredo...wink




RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Originally posted by Richard Beer Froth


That's laughable, and you are worse than a woman with your desperate attempts to bring up old posts and twist them into what you want folks to believe.

Sure, some republicans will vote for Biden, for your statement to remain true, it would only take one. Way to act like you know it all....just like saying some Dems will now vote for Trump, No?? Only takes one.

I'll be reading how you caught Fred in a lie on here from now on. False as it is.

CNN, MSDNC reporter=No Credibility Disorder.

NN
Richard Beer Froth
06/09/20 2:03



That's laughable, and you are worse than a woman with your desperate attempts to bring up old posts and twist them into what you want folks to believe.

Sure, some republicans will vote for Biden, for your statement to remain true, it would only take one. Way to act like you know it all....just like saying some Dems will now vote for Trump, No?? Only takes one.

I'll be reading how you caught Fred in a lie on here from now on. False as it is.

CNN, MSDNC reporter=No Credibility Disorder.

NNOriginally posted by DoubleN


One isn't plural, but again you are using Drumpf logic...

Sure Dems will vote for Drumpf.... Ivanka and Jared and the rest of the Drumpf family... Life long Dems...

https://www.cnn.com/2016/04/11/politics/donald-trump-ivanka-vice-president/index.html

c/p: "Eric and Ivanka needed to have changed their registration to Republican"

Jared too.. Life long Dem...

https://www.businessinsider.com/ivanka-trump-and-jared-kushner-are-finally-registered-republicans-2020-3




RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Fred67
06/09/20 10:18





There will be current Repukes that vote for Biden too becuse Drumpf is an idiot and a disgrace...

The Dems haven't changed that much, and that is a sorry excuse as to why Alfredo voted for them.. I have never voted for a Dem...

Alfredo brags about how honest he is, and essentially he is a liar and "shapes" his narrative to whatever he is arguing at the time regardless of what he has stated in the past... Unfortunately for Alfredo, he has a terrible memory and can't keep up with his lies... Actually, Alfredo can't keep up with what others have stated either which causes him to look foolish with many of his responses...

Shame on you Alfredo...wink

Originally posted by Richard Beer Froth


No shame on my part. I hold the line to being honest in what I post. What is a shame is you constantly twisting everything, even the things you know are right but refuse to admit because of your hard head.

you say you have never voted for a Dem. You say you are independent, then later a republican. If you were a republican I don't believe you would defend so many Democrats and democratic supporters.

What are all these "lies" I can't keep up with? What would be interesting is to know how many usernames and Passwords you have written down in your little note book by your computer. Disorder.
Richard Beer Froth
06/09/20 15:02



No shame on my part. I hold the line to being honest in what I post. What is a shame is you constantly twisting everything, even the things you know are right but refuse to admit because of your hard head.

you say you have never voted for a Dem. You say you are independent, then later a republican. If you were a republican I don't believe you would defend so many Democrats and democratic supporters.

What are all these "lies" I can't keep up with? What would be interesting is to know how many usernames and Passwords you have written down in your little note book by your computer. Disorder. Originally posted by Fred67


Let's start with the lie you have been caught in... I am sure there are many more... You twist your statements to fit the narrative...

You stated you would criticize Drumpf when he did some thing wrong... Drumpf has done a lot wrong but you just fall in line like a good lying loyalist... Geez man, Drumpf is the biggest liar ever...

Here is just another of his lies:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-bunker-william-barr-secret-service/

So, Alfredo... In summary you have stated repeatedly lately you only voted for ONE democrat... What is the truth? I believe you fudged to try to make it out like you weren't a Democrat although you stated previously you have voted for "a few"...

You also have stated you would support anyone that was President since that is what we should do as Americans... But, you bashed Obama relentlessly, calling him all kinds of nasty things... Guess what, that's a lie too...

Essentially, you do not live what you preach for others to do, and it is kinda sad you would bash Obama for 8 years and then call for all Americans to support Drumpf for the betterment of the country... Disingenuous at best...

It is obvious you are a proud American only when your party/candidate is in office... When Obama was in office all you talked about was how bad America was and sulked...


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Bayrider
06/09/20 18:28


Obama said he was the one everyone was waiting for and he could lower the rise of the seas so when’s he going to fix his hometown to prove he’s on the Black Lives Matter team

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/6/1/21275944/chicago-weekend-shootings-most-violent-weekend-2020-may-29-june-1

after Lightfoot defunds the police they will need the former president to show them how to run his city correctly. They should go ahead and remove any existing statues that haven’t been Antifaed and replace them with Obama statues for the citizens to kneel before and sing songs of praise to him. Then there will be no more violence or racism in the Windy City. Rahm Emanual says he’ll wash Obama’s feet if he promises to take back Chicago. Nothing like making all the Karens and Cucks totally happy with Brown Man Good.

Cue Mighty Mouse theme song now
7cs
06/09/20 18:42


Bayrider
06/09/20 20:28


Only the Brown Man Good all powerful Obama can fix his city. They hate Trump and the cops so he’s the only Peace Prize winner that can fix his hometown

https://mobile.twitter.com/dowdedward/status/1270390633602011137?

Please Obama quell the Biden voters with the crease in your trousers, call out your inner Corpseman and get Chicago back to the shovel ready jobs you created.
Fred67
06/10/20 10:25





So, Alfredo... In summary you have stated repeatedly lately you only voted for ONE democrat... What is the truth? I believe you fudged to try to make it out like you weren't a Democrat although you stated previously you have voted for "a few"...

Y Originally posted by Richard Beer Froth



You are getting desperate RBF, So I'm a liar because I told you a truth about myself? That I vote for the person I feel is best for the position? Yes I have voted for a Democrat many years ago. What's the big deal about it. With all your support of our low life Democrats looting and rioting in the streets It seem that would make you happy. Twist some more. What's such a big deal if I was a converted Democrat? Which I am not. You should go back and read the whole thread you searched so hard to find. disorder.


Edit.... YOu also falsely stated That I've never criticized Trump. I have criticized him on several issues and I'm torn with all his tweets. I think some should not have been put out, but then again, it does seem to tick off the Dems and media. So maybe that's the only reason he does it. Hook, Line and sinker. What was the old saying around here? Something about a jug belled red...
Richard Beer Froth
06/10/20 13:21



You are getting desperate RBF, So I'm a liar because I told you a truth about myself? That I vote for the person I feel is best for the position? Yes I have voted for a Democrat many years ago. What's the big deal about it. With all your support of our low life Democrats looting and rioting in the streets It seem that would make you happy. Twist some more. What's such a big deal if I was a converted Democrat? Which I am not. You should go back and read the whole thread you searched so hard to find. disorder.


Edit.... YOu also falsely stated That I've never criticized Trump. I have criticized him on several issues and I'm torn with all his tweets. I think some should not have been put out, but then again, it does seem to tick off the Dems and media. So maybe that's the only reason he does it. Hook, Line and sinker. What was the old saying around here? Something about a jug belled red...Originally posted by Fred67


Alfredo, you got caught in a lie and are trying to convince yourself "a democrat" is the same as "a few democrats"... Simple - one is singular and few is plural...

All the rest of your post is silly and just the typical Drumpf loyalist projection tactics... Funny how you seem to have started lying a lot when Drumpf took office...

One more "disorder" and we'll have to include you in the over/under along with 7costanza and double chiNN... There is gonna beez a whole lot Cha-chinging for RBF... bigsmile


You need to relax, go do a little gardening, drink your liquor, and f-bomb RBF all you need to if it helps you make it through this difficult stage of knowing it is rather possible Drumpf will be voted out in November, and deemed an embarrassment for the Repukes to deal with for decades...


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Bob 241
06/10/20 13:38


Did RBF say "DECADES" thumbsUpthumbsUpthumbsUp


BOB
Richard Beer Froth
06/10/20 14:00


Did RBF say "DECADES" thumbsUpthumbsUpthumbsUp


BOBOriginally posted by Bob 241


Reality is it would best for the Repukes if Drumpf does get voted out because if he returns then it becomes centuries...


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Bayrider
06/10/20 14:41


Did RBF say "DECADES" thumbsUpthumbsUpthumbsUp


BOBOriginally posted by Bob 241


4 decades!!!

Since 2004, Americans have been witnessing and participating in the emergence of a Democratic majority that will last not four but forty years.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6456133-40-more-years

Demented Joe leaves the basement for 8 am oatmeal feeding, tried applesauce but had to keep wiping his chin. He did try to grope and sniff the caregiver thumbsUp
Fred67
06/10/20 15:04





Edit.... YOu also falsely stated That I've never criticized Trump. I .Originally posted by Fred67


Alfredo, you got caught in a lie and are trying to convince yourself "a democrat" is the same as "a few democrats"... Simple - one is singular and few is plural...

All the rest of your post is silly and just the typical Drumpf loyalist projection tactics... Funny how you seem to have started lying a lot when Drumpf took office...

One more "disorder" and we'll have to include you in the over/under along with 7costanza and double chiNN... There is gonna beez a whole lot Cha-chinging for RBF... bigsmile



Originally posted by Richard Beer Froth


Again what have I been busted in for a lie? Oh my so sorry if I was misleading on my Voting. Actually I don't recall half of the people I've voted for in my life, but at least I do vote. As I've stated before, I vote who I think is the best person for the job. Unfortunately I don't feel any Democrats are doing a good job and many republicans are lacking as well. (let's see how you twist that one). We have the Majority of Democrats that want to disband our Law officers!!! If you and I cant come to common ground on this one issue you need to do a little relaxing and maybe try planting a garden. Can you imagine the chaos and anarchy that would happen?

I lie now that Trump took office? Good twist and falsehood on your part. You must hate Trump as bad as Bob and Polly. I still think Trump will take office again, but if he doesn't There will be no embarrassment on my part. Hillary not winning? Now that is some major embarrassment for many.

Here ya go... disorder.
Fred67
06/10/20 15:08


Did RBF say "DECADES" thumbsUpthumbsUpthumbsUp


BOBOriginally posted by Bob 241


You call me the lowest of the low, and you thumbs up An organization that wishes to throw our Country into Anarchy by getting rid our Police?
Bob 241
06/10/20 15:37


Did RBF say "DECADES" thumbsUpthumbsUpthumbsUp


BOBOriginally posted by Bob 241


You call me the lowest of the low, and you thumbs up An organization that wishes to throw our Country into Anarchy by getting rid our Police? Originally posted by Fred67



Now you want to twist my words Fred. I comented on RBF's post about decades . Didn't say anything else.


BOB
Richard Beer Froth
06/10/20 15:43



Again what have I been busted in for a lie? Oh my so sorry if I was misleading on my Voting. Actually I don't recall half of the people I've voted for in my life, but at least I do vote. As I've stated before, I vote who I think is the best person for the job. Unfortunately I don't feel any Democrats are doing a good job and many republicans are lacking as well. (let's see how you twist that one). We have the Majority of Democrats that want to disband our Law officers!!! If you and I cant come to common ground on this one issue you need to do a little relaxing and maybe try planting a garden. Can you imagine the chaos and anarchy that would happen?

I lie now that Trump took office? Good twist and falsehood on your part. You must hate Trump as bad as Bob and Polly. I still think Trump will take office again, but if he doesn't There will be no embarrassment on my part. Hillary not winning? Now that is some major embarrassment for many.

Here ya go... disorder. Originally posted by Fred67


I wouldn't bust you so hard if it weren't for the fact you kept on stating you voted for "only one" democrat here recently because I was saying you have voted for more... Now you are saying you don't even remember half the people you voted for, but argued relentlessly that you only voted for 1 democrat for sheriff... Seems like you are covering up something Alfredo...

I am not for defunding the police and neither is Biden... Won't vote for him, but won't be upset if he wins... You can look back and my record here is consistent about supporting LEO...

Interesting thing about all the Repukes is they typically claim the Police do nothing for you when you need them as a reason to support the 2nd amendment... If that is true, then why does "defunding" the police matter now?

Folks, looks like we need to include Alfredo in the over/under starting now... Will send the updated daily and weekly spread out ASAP! Cha-ching!


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Bob 241
06/10/20 16:05


Fred you never got over "WHAT GOES BUMP IN THE NIGHT" when you were a kid. Everytime you hear something: "WHATS THAT" "WHAT WAS THAT". Why do you preach an do your fear mongering about things that will never happen.250 years and this country has never come close to what you say.
Conspiracy Theories and Fear Mongering thats all your posts are. None of the crap you continuously spuew is happening or going to happen. Read this every day. Day in and day out you are here. Don't you have a life? Pitiful when a grown man is obsessed with s#it like this. Grow up Fred.


BOB
Fred67
06/10/20 16:33


Fred you never got over "WHAT GOES BUMP IN THE NIGHT" when you were a kid. Everytime you hear something: "WHATS THAT" "WHAT WAS THAT". Why do you preach an do your fear mongering about things that will never happen.250 years and this country has never come close to what you say.
Conspiracy Theories and Fear Mongering thats all your posts are. None of the crap you continuously spuew is happening or going to happen. Read this every day. Day in and day out you are here. Don't you have a life? Pitiful when a grown man is obsessed with s#it like this. Grow up Fred.


BOBOriginally posted by Bob 241


Grow up? Never, then you get old and grumpy and worry about people pointing out things are changing. As to Bumps in the night? I'm a very light sleeper and yes I wonder when I hear noises in the night. Mostly walk the yard fully prepared for most anything and seldom go back to bed. I deal with it.

If what I say you take as fear mongering, then so be it. If you can't see America is changing then you are the pitiful one. You say I spew crap continuously, what is it that I say that you consider crap? Right now we have LEADERS in our country calling for the disbanding or our police force. That is crap and significant change. You have the audacity to call me the lowest of the low and pitiful? Man you need to grow up. I "preach" this stuff in the hopes it won't happen. Life is good.

Let me ask you a question, what have I posted that you really consider fear mongering? Let's be civil about it and I'll explain my thinking to anything you reply with. I really would like to know why you called me the lowest of the low? I'm assuming because I support our Standing President? Or was it the shadow box thing. I openly apologize to you if I offended you on how you like to display your medals. Got to admit you did kind of throw them out there with no back up story to begin with on your first posting in this political forum. Seemed kind of odd to several.
Richard Beer Froth
06/10/20 16:43



Let me ask you a question, what have I posted that you really consider fear mongering? Let's be civil about it and I'll explain my thinking to anything you reply with. I really would like to know why you called me the lowest of the low? I'm assuming because I support our Standing President? Or was it the shadow box thing. I openly apologize to you if I offended you on how you like to display your medals. Got to admit you did kind of throw them out there with no back up story to begin with on your first posting in this political forum. Seemed kind of odd to several. Originally posted by Fred67


You claim that Bob241 is an RBF alias, but now want to discuss things with him and apologize to him...

You beez like this:




RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Fred67
06/10/20 17:12



Let me ask you a question, what have I posted that you really consider fear mongering? Let's be civil about it and I'll explain my thinking to anything you reply with. I really would like to know why you called me the lowest of the low? I'm assuming because I support our Standing President? Or was it the shadow box thing. I openly apologize to you if I offended you on how you like to display your medals. Got to admit you did kind of throw them out there with no back up story to begin with on your first posting in this political forum. Seemed kind of odd to several. Originally posted by Fred67


You claim that Bob241 is an RBF alias, but now want to discuss things with him and apologize to him...

You beez like this:

Originally posted by Richard Beer Froth


Figured as much. Was just appealing to your other side since you have gone so far overboard defending all the Democrats. Your still welcome to discuss. I have no problem apologizing to anyone if I've wronged them in any way. But you would know nothing about that.
Richard Beer Froth
06/10/20 17:36



Figured as much. Was just appealing to your other side since you have gone so far overboard defending all the Democrats. Your still welcome to discuss. I have no problem apologizing to anyone if I've wronged them in any way. But you would know nothing about that. Originally posted by Fred67


You're the Democrat between us... Never voted Dem and that's really all that matters when it comes to "defending" them... You have voted for Dems and aren't really sure how many at this point with your bad memory...wink


Best part is you say I am Bob241 again which mean I am a decorated Marine Veteran with actual front line battle experience... But yet, I never served...

Hey Bob 241, it is an honor to be accused of being you, sorry about you being accused of being me...bigsmile


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
natureboy
06/10/20 18:10



Let me ask you a question, what have I posted that you really consider fear mongering? Let's be civil about it and I'll explain my thinking to anything you reply with. I really would like to know why you called me the lowest of the low? I'm assuming because I support our Standing President? Or was it the shadow box thing. I openly apologize to you if I offended you on how you like to display your medals. Got to admit you did kind of throw them out there with no back up story to begin with on your first posting in this political forum. Seemed kind of odd to several. Originally posted by Fred67


You claim that Bob241 is an RBF alias, but now want to discuss things with him and apologize to him...

You beez like this:

Originally posted by Richard Beer Froth


Figured as much. Was just appealing to your other side since you have gone so far overboard defending all the Democrats. Your still welcome to discuss. I have no problem apologizing to anyone if I've wronged them in any way. But you would know nothing about that. Originally posted by Fred67


Fred. I appreciate your posts and I have never considered you to be a liberal dem. In Local elections I think we all vote for the best man for the job without looking at the party. It’s a huge twist to consider you to be a dem because of a few local votes.
In the situation I see on this forum it may be best to ignore the iceholes that twist words, childishly name call ,insult and abuse. Who in their right mind wants to discuss anything with anyone that would treat you rudely and constantly bash you for their own sick sport. I say let the bullies and icehole liberals talk to each other. Many that I have spoken to are already doing this.
This is not to say that all liberal Dems are rude and iceholes. A few make reasonable representations and comments and are open to fair and enlightening discussions.
Richard Beer Froth
06/10/20 21:30





RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Fred67
06/10/20 23:32






Fred. I appreciate your posts and I have never considered you to be a liberal dem. In Local elections I think we all vote for the best man for the job without looking at the party. It’s a huge twist to consider you to be a dem because of a few local votes.
In the situation I see on this forum it may be best to ignore the iceholes that twist words, childishly name call ,insult and abuse. Who in their right mind wants to discuss anything with anyone that would treat you rudely and constantly bash you for their own sick sport. I say let the bullies and icehole liberals talk to each other. Many that I have spoken to are already doing this.
This is not to say that all liberal Dems are rude and iceholes. A few make reasonable representations and comments and are open to fair and enlightening discussions. Originally posted by natureboy


LOL! no I'm no a liberal Dem! RBF just throws that out there to ruffle my feathers. You are of course right, and I'm almost done. I'll never get a sincere reply to any question I may ask. Probably because they know they would be ripped to shreds if they actually let it slip just how liberal and up the likes of Pelosis and her team's arse they are.
Off the chain
06/13/20 21:27


A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.
(Alexander Hamilton)


I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.
Bayrider
06/14/20 0:19


Chaz denutted the police and now lives in their former precinct

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/11/total-blackout-insanity-seattle-establishment-media-turn-focus-from-autonomous-zone/

you should see their garden
Richard Beer Froth
06/15/20 15:21


https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/trumps-deceptive-ad-on-biden-and-defunding-the-police/


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Fred67
06/15/20 16:23


https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/trumps-deceptive-ad-on-biden-and-defunding-the-police/


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Originally posted by Richard Beer Froth


Did you watch the ad? “Biden fails to stand up to the radical leftists fighting to defund and abolish the police.” Have you seen Biden stand up to anyone other cocoa corn puff?
Bayrider
06/15/20 19:16


and in the near future you’ll be able to watch re-runs of a lot more rioting and looting thanks to the Democrats

https://www.lawofficer.com/the-acquittal-of-derek-chauvin/

c/p- The scandal of this case is not the neck restraint or racism but rather why the politicians and Minneapolis Leaders withheld all of this information.

Information they had the very next day.
Bayrider
06/29/20 12:24


Exactly who are they protesting now?

anyway Democratic controlled city provides light touch viewing from a distance to give space to marxists to destroy at will

https://mobile.twitter.com/nycpba/status/1277291762952941568?

isn’t it strange how everything that’s wrong is blamed on a repuke? hmmmm maybe it’s a repukephobia amidst or factless propaganda

Bayrider
06/29/20 22:36


Damyum! those peaceful protest were expensive

https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/28/in-first-weekend-of-riots-looting-damage-in-20-major-cities-exceeded-400-million/

yikes! hope none of that comes out of non-protesters pockets or we’ll need reparations
Bayrider
06/30/20 22:27


Fred67
07/01/20 9:54


Damyum! those peaceful protest were expensive

https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/28/in-first-weekend-of-riots-looting-damage-in-20-major-cities-exceeded-400-million/

yikes! hope none of that comes out of non-protesters pockets or we’ll need reparations Originally posted by Bayrider


Sad thing is we all know the money will come from the working men and women of this country. Not from those that did the looting.
PalmerScott
07/01/20 18:40


The libs have raised these idiot children that are running chaotic in the streets. No discipline. No respect for themselves or others.

Now, the little hell'yuns they raised and indoctrinated in our tax payer public schools are coming around and eating their own.

It is both scary and funny to watch Seattle Mayor Durkan support the occupying and destruction of citizen's private property by CHAZ/CHOP/WHATEVER ---------- then------------- get pissed when one of her council persons leads the mob to her front yard and insists the council woman, Kshama Sawant, must be investigated.

SO, Durkan says her constituents that live in the area that became CHAZ should tolerate the loss of personal property and security but she'll have none of it.

ENORMOUS ELITIST HYPOCRITE!



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17' Henry O Hornet w/ Johnson 88 spl
26' Palmer Scott project hull
14' Bentz-Craft w/ Yamaha 25
poly ball
07/01/20 18:53


The libs have raised these idiot children that are running chaotic in the streets. No discipline. No respect for themselves or others.

Now, the little hell'yuns they raised and indoctrinated in our tax payer public schools are coming around and eating their own.

It is both scary and funny to watch Seattle Mayor Durkan support the occupying and destruction of citizen's private property by CHAZ/CHOP/WHATEVER ---------- then------------- get pissed when one of her council persons leads the mob to her front yard and insists the council woman, Kshama Sawant, must be investigated.

SO, Durkan says her constituents that live in the area that became CHAZ should tolerate the loss of personal property and security but she'll have none of it.

ENORMOUS ELITIST HYPOCRITE!



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17' Henry O Hornet w/ Johnson 88 spl
26' Palmer Scott project hull
14' Bentz-Craft w/ Yamaha 25Originally posted by PalmerScott


Right wing idiots have raised the boogaloo boyz , or was it some old members of the KKK from Horry county?

Seven people were arrested in Columbia last week after police used social media posts to identify rioters and looters who staged a violent confrontation with police following a day of peaceful protests at the Statehouse.

Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott said two of the men were affiliated with the Boogaloo boys, a right-wing extremist group with a variety of racist and antigovernment views. The self-stated goal of the group — which showed up at protests across the country in Hawaiian shirts, often armed — is to trigger a second U.S. civil war.

The fact that some of the violence in Columbia and elsewhere was caused by anarchists on the right rather than anarchists on the left doesn’t suddenly make the rioting wrong; it was always wrong. And it certainly doesn’t make it OK — just as the involvement of some people who were protesting police brutality doesn’t make it OK. There is no justification for throwing rocks at police and bashing in doors and windows and assaulting innocent bystanders.

But anyone who wants to use the riots as an excuse to dismiss protesters as a bunch of lawless extremists on the left needs to explain how that narrative fits with the arrests of the anarchists on the right.

Fred67
07/01/20 19:08


Hey Polly, wouldn’t it have just been easier to agree to the truth of palmers statement?










Why Bruce?... the ramblings of a disillusioned Hillary supporter.
Originally posted by poly ball

I believe Fred could witness trump pissing on an old homeless lady, and he'd tell him he's doing a hell of a job, really soaking her.
PalmerScott
07/01/20 19:09



...

SO, Durkan says her constituents that live in the area that became CHAZ should tolerate the loss of personal property and security but she'll have none of it.

ENORMOUS ELITIST HYPOCRITE!



Originally posted by PalmerScott


Right wing idiots have raised the boogaloo boyz , or was it some old members of the KKK from Horry county?

Seven people were arrested in Columbia last week after police used social media posts to identify rioters and looters who staged a violent confrontation with police following a day of peaceful protests at the Statehouse.

Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott said two of the men were affiliated with the Boogaloo boys, a right-wing extremist group with a variety of racist and antigovernment views. The self-stated goal of the group — which showed up at protests across the country in Hawaiian shirts, often armed — is to trigger a second U.S. civil war.

The fact that some of the violence in Columbia and elsewhere was caused by anarchists on the right rather than anarchists on the left doesn’t suddenly make the rioting wrong; it was always wrong. And it certainly doesn’t make it OK — just as the involvement of some people who were protesting police brutality doesn’t make it OK. There is no justification for throwing rocks at police and bashing in doors and windows and assaulting innocent bystanders.

But anyone who wants to use the riots as an excuse to dismiss protesters as a bunch of lawless extremists on the left needs to explain how that narrative fits with the arrests of the anarchists on the right.

Originally posted by poly ball



HOLD IT!!!!!!
STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!!!
YOU ALL WON'T BELIEVE THIS, BUT, I'm going to agree with POLY!!!!!!!!!!!


...doesn’t suddenly make the rioting wrong; it was always wrong. And it certainly doesn’t make it OK — just as the involvement of some people who were protesting police brutality doesn’t make it OK. There is no justification for throwing rocks at police and bashing in doors and windows and assaulting innocent bystanders.

But anyone who wants to use the riots as an excuse to dismiss protesters as a bunch of lawless extremists on the left needs to explain how that narrative fits with the arrests of the anarchists on the right.


As far as it goes, I agree with that.

But, you stated this in reply to my previous. So, one would think your post is related to the content of my post. It is not. My post pointed out that a Mayor of a large Democrat led city was fine with 'protesters' protesting on other peoples property and then was highly upset when same said protesters showed up on her property. What's good for her constituents is obviously not good enough for her ==> elitist hypocrite.




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Bayrider
07/01/20 22:52


If BLM defunds the popo why would they need weapons?

C/p The weapons shipment from Chinese smugglers has been caught at a time when the United States of America has been caught in the grip of a civil-war. The issue is complicated by the fact that the group leading the civil-unrest movement, the Black Lives Matter has direct ties to known terrorists.

https://greatgameindia.com/china-smuggling-assault-weapons-us/

they might lose their peaceful protesters moniker

another NYT story for printing

poly ball
07/02/20 11:01


Why do civilians need military grade weapons? Ban assault weapons!

Peter Councell, why does the link from US Customs and Border Patrol , mention nothing about BLM? Try posting some credible sources brah.......not your right-wing , conspiracy laced, bullshit sites......

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/local-media-release/10800-assault-weapons-parts-seized-cbp-louisville

poly ball
07/02/20 11:08


natureboy
07/02/20 13:22


Them dam boogaloo boyz been know to tote some automatic weaponry.......

https://www.thetrace.org/2020/06/boogaloo-gun-ammunition-marketing-facebook-instagram/

https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2020/jun/02/chattanoogpolice-stopped-protester-ar-15-week/524389/

http://ncccommuter.org/boogaloo-where-ar-15-meets-aloha/Originally posted by poly ball


Altarboi , you are perpetuating a liberal talking point (lie) . An AR 15 is certainly not a fully automatic weapon. It requires one trigger pull for one shot. Semi auto. You probably have deer rifles like this. Personally, I much prefer bolt action weapons for the accuracy
PalmerScott
07/02/20 13:54


Why do civilians need military grade weapons? Ban assault weapons!

...
Originally posted by poly ball


Either absolute ignorance or shear lack of intellectual integrity (liar).

The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with anything EXCEPT the citizenry being able to protect itself from a tyrannical government. It follows directly, that citizenry must therefore be allowed to own/possess/operate/feed/maintain weapons appropriate for that use.

I'm not suggesting insurrection.
I am pointing out the plain language and intent of our founding legal document.



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poly ball
07/02/20 14:01


Them dam boogaloo boyz been know to tote some automatic weaponry.......

https://www.thetrace.org/2020/06/boogaloo-gun-ammunition-marketing-facebook-instagram/

https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2020/jun/02/chattanoogpolice-stopped-protester-ar-15-week/524389/

http://ncccommuter.org/boogaloo-where-ar-15-meets-aloha/Originally posted by poly ball


Altarboi , you are perpetuating a liberal talking point (lie) . An AR 15 is certainly not a fully automatic weapon. It requires one trigger pull for one shot. Semi auto. You probably have deer rifles like this. Personally, I much prefer bolt action weapons for the accuracyOriginally posted by natureboy


Negative natureboi.....I shoot a Ruger #1, single shot, only capable of holding only 1 round.

Take that AR with a bump-strock, and you'll be spraying lead all over the place.....Why do boogaloo boyz have to carry AR's?
poly ball
07/02/20 14:03


Why do civilians need military grade weapons? Ban assault weapons!

...
Originally posted by poly ball


Either absolute ignorance or shear lack of intellectual integrity (liar).

The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with anything EXCEPT the citizenry being able to protect itself from a tyrannical government. It follows directly, that citizenry must therefore be allowed to own/possess/operate/feed/maintain weapons appropriate for that use.

I'm not suggesting insurrection.
I am pointing out the plain language and intent of our founding legal document.



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14' Bentz-Craft w/ Yamaha 25Originally posted by PalmerScott


Got it....why do certain individuals show up at peaceful protests with AR's?
poly ball
07/02/20 14:07


Why do civilians need military grade weapons? Ban assault weapons!

...
Originally posted by poly ball


Either absolute ignorance or shear lack of intellectual integrity (liar).

The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with anything EXCEPT the citizenry being able to protect itself from a tyrannical government. It follows directly, that citizenry must therefore be allowed to own/possess/operate/feed/maintain weapons appropriate for that use.

I'm not suggesting insurrection.
I am pointing out the plain language and intent of our founding legal document.



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14' Bentz-Craft w/ Yamaha 25Originally posted by PalmerScott


https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2017/11/why-the-ar-15-was-never-meant-to-be-in-civilians-hands/545438/

Not too difficult to make an AR full auto.....

Small but significant changes were made to the architecture of the lower receiver, primarily slight relocation of pivot pins and redesign of the trigger/hammer components that pivoted on them, so that it would not be possible to acquire, legally or illegally, M16 trigger/hammer and fire selector components and thus easily convert the AR-15 to possess the same full automatic capability as the M16.

Richard Beer Froth
07/02/20 14:29



The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with anything EXCEPT the citizenry being able to protect itself from a tyrannical government. It follows directly, that citizenry must therefore be allowed to own/possess/operate/feed/maintain weapons appropriate for that use.
Originally posted by PalmerScott


If this is true, then why is the 2nd amendment predicated on a "Well-Regulated Militia"...

I have no problem with gun ownership, but I believe the 2nd amendment is a weak argument for the average joe to own one... I believe it should fall under the argument of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness... "Life" being the key word as in defense of ones own...


Here is The Federalist Paper #29, and what was intended as a "well-regulated militia":

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed29.asp

c/p:

"This desirable uniformity can only be accomplished by confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority. It is, therefore, with the most evident propriety, that the plan of the convention proposes to empower the Union "to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, RESERVING TO THE STATES RESPECTIVELY THE APPOINTMENT OF THE OFFICERS, AND THE AUTHORITY OF TRAINING THE MILITIA ACCORDING TO THE DISCIPLINE PRESCRIBED BY CONGRESS.''


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Fred67
07/02/20 16:25


Them dam boogaloo boyz been know to tote some automatic weaponry.......

https://www.thetrace.org/2020/06/boogaloo-gun-ammunition-marketing-facebook-instagram/

https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2020/jun/02/chattanoogpolice-stopped-protester-ar-15-week/524389/

http://ncccommuter.org/boogaloo-where-ar-15-meets-aloha/Originally posted by poly ball


Altarboi , you are perpetuating a liberal talking point (lie) . An AR 15 is certainly not a fully automatic weapon. It requires one trigger pull for one shot. Semi auto. You probably have deer rifles like this. Personally, I much prefer bolt action weapons for the accuracyOriginally posted by natureboy


Negative natureboi.....I shoot a Ruger #1, single shot, only capable of holding only 1 round.

Take that AR with a bump-strock, and you'll be spraying lead all over the place.....Why do boogaloo boyz have to carry AR's? Originally posted by poly ball


Why do Antifa punks carry AR's? COme on dude if you are going to need a weapon against a crowd why would you bring a One shot weapon? I'm not advocating bringing AR's to a protest, but if I were it would be an AR platform weapon. Probably my AR 12.

On the fully auto thing, won't help anyone unless properly trained. I'm not one for spraying and praying, maybe some good suppressive fire. I'll take the calculated well aimed shots. I don't see the hype on a "bump" stock.
Fred67
07/02/20 16:34


Why do civilians need military grade weapons? Ban assault weapons!

...
Originally posted by poly ball



r-15-was-never-meant-to-be-in-civilians-hands/545438/

Not too difficult to make an AR full auto.....

Originally posted by poly ball


Ban assault weapons? No, this is America and I like my AR platform weapons. You don't, we all know this, but get over it. I'm keeping mine and I hunt with a couple.

Depending on your skill set, not hard at all to make many weapons other than AR platforms fully auto. Even my little ruger 10/22.

You might want to look up the definition of Military grade weapons. You might be cutting your own throat in what caliber rifle or handgun you may use. You still are a hunter I assume? Talking of military grade... 5G is military grade.

As for so many false things about automatic weapons... Get yourself into a lot of Federal trouble possessing one with out proper permits. Legally, they are Heavily regulated, Extremely expensive, and Old. The newest ones are over 33 years old if you can find someone wanting to part with one.
poly ball
07/02/20 17:34


Why do civilians need military grade weapons? Ban assault weapons!

...
Originally posted by poly ball



r-15-was-never-meant-to-be-in-civilians-hands/545438/

Not too difficult to make an AR full auto.....

Originally posted by poly ball


Ban assault weapons? No, this is America and I like my AR platform weapons. You don't, we all know this, but get over it. I'm keeping mine and I hunt with a couple.

Depending on your skill set, not hard at all to make many weapons other than AR platforms fully auto. Even my little ruger 10/22.

You might want to look up the definition of Military grade weapons. You might be cutting your own throat in what caliber rifle or handgun you may use. You still are a hunter I assume? Talking of military grade... 5G is military grade.

As for so many false things about automatic weapons... Get yourself into a lot of Federal trouble possessing one with out proper permits. Legally, they are Heavily regulated, Extremely expensive, and Old. The newest ones are over 33 years old if you can find someone wanting to part with one. Originally posted by Fred67


NO Alfred, this is 'Merica

A whole new way of saying America. As America falls into the category of a nation, Merica is the whole experience of America summed up in a stereotypical way. Eating anything deep-fried, shooting shotguns, getting so fat you attempt to use the force to levitate it off the coffee table, all compressed into one word. People often say it when they see Americans doing things only Americans can do, such as: trimming a hedge with a chainsaw, eating quadruple burgers with extra lard, and driving tractors in the middle of a freeway. It is often expressed in a proud and commonly exaggerated manor. This phrase is one to be only used when the time comes to say it, like at a eating contest or at a mud pit wrestling match. As there are so many people in America that truly express what the word is all about, there is one family that pushes it over the limit. They are commonly called the "Honey Boo Boo Family".

They are known to do the same, and even more, of the equally stupid stunts that typical rednecks would do. They are reported to relive acts of true Merican spirit, like drinking 2 liter bottles of DIET cola, driving trucks into frozen creeks, getting pointless tattoos of American birds on their backs, eating processed nacho cheese in a bacon cup, tucking their Ak47s in their pillows, ordering 27 Big Macs at McDonalds with a side salad, and so much more.
Son: "Dad, did you see that man eat 503 hot dogs in 3 minutes? I wonder how many pounds he will gain!"

Dad: "Shut up son, and embrace true Merican spirit held before you!"

Son: "But Dad-"

Dad: "Merica!"
PalmerScott
07/02/20 18:23




...

Here is The Federalist Paper #29, and what was intended as a "well-regulated militia":

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed29.asp

c/p:

"This desirable uniformity can only be accomplished by confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority. It is, therefore, with the most evident propriety, that the plan of the convention proposes to empower the Union "to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, RESERVING TO THE STATES RESPECTIVELY THE APPOINTMENT OF THE OFFICERS, AND THE AUTHORITY OF TRAINING THE MILITIA ACCORDING TO THE DISCIPLINE PRESCRIBED BY CONGRESS.''


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Originally posted by Richard Beer Froth


During that period of history, the militia were the State militia, meaning those raised by the several states. In those militia it was very common that those required to serve had to furnish their own weapons. So, we're not talking about whether or not the 'state' can supply a militia with weapons. We talking the weapons the members of the militia brought themselves.


Further, the Supreme Court has made it clear, repeatedly, the right to bear arms belongs to the individual citizen. Ergo, he who's right shall not be infringed is the average law abiding citizen.




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natureboy
07/02/20 18:40


It seems like everything the liberal side states has a flaw that they overlook . In the case of the boogaloo boys , they are a poorly organized bunch of misfits that will most likely self destruct sooner rather than later. Unlike BLM and ANTIFA they do not have any meaningful support from any political party.

The wording of the 2nd ends with “ the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed “ that seems easily understandable to me!
Off the chain
07/02/20 19:17


Dang y'all been busy since this morning.
The boogaloo boys .I watch a lot of gun channels and I've never seen a meme or really heard anyone talk about them. And as far as them being right-wing. I think they lean more left. Or whichever way the wind blows.

Making an AR full auto.Not as easy as you think. And as far as that goes I can take a Glock 19 with a 30 round mag. And do a mag dump in about 2 and a half seconds.

And if you think all they want is your AK or AR you're crazy. They want you to have no guns.

about all the Chinese made AR parts being smuggled in. I imagine anyone that knows anything about firearms wouldn't buy that junk And if you banned the so-called asalt rifles that would just open up that market.
Ss far as Kel-Tec buying up and distributing all this ammo they need to do something cuz from what I've seen their weapons are crap. What did I forget???



I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.
Richard Beer Froth
07/02/20 19:21



During that period of history, the militia were the State militia, meaning those raised by the several states. In those militia it was very common that those required to serve had to furnish their own weapons. So, we're not talking about whether or not the 'state' can supply a militia with weapons. We talking the weapons the members of the militia brought themselves.

Further, the Supreme Court has made it clear, repeatedly, the right to bear arms belongs to the individual citizen. Ergo, he who's right shall not be infringed is the average law abiding citizen.

Originally posted by PalmerScott


A 5-4 ruling isn't exactly convincing to me:

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/on-this-day-a-divided-supreme-court-rules-on-the-second-amendment


Yes, there were ones in the militia that did supply their personal weapons and they were regulated in doing so... Guns were scarce back then, easier to "regulate", and were actually tracked...

https://theconversation.com/five-types-of-gun-laws-the-founding-fathers-loved-85364

However, as I proved before the intent in the Constitution was for the "well-regulated militia" to provide arms, and perhaps that was a long-term goal as guns were scarce back then... I am sure they believed it was unreasonable to hold up ratifying the Constitution until the state militias, with federal funding, procured enough guns for all members...

One thing to mention also, nowhere does it mention in the 2nd amendment regarding "owning" as it simply states to "keep and bear"... To "keep" isn't ownership... Based on the Federalist Papers, to "keep and bear" most likely meant to: store, manage, protect them (home or elsewhere), and carry when needed for battle whether issued by the militia or if someone paid for it themselves...

Again, to "keep and bear" doesn't state ownership rights, and there are many other references in the constitution that do call out for property ownership rights for people... Seems to me it was deliberate they didn't incorporate "ownership" rights explicitly into the 2nd amendment and instead used the term to "keep and bear"...


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
poly ball
07/02/20 22:38


Dang y'all been busy since this morning.
The boogaloo boys .I watch a lot of gun channels and I've never seen a meme or really heard anyone talk about them. And as far as them being right-wing. I think they lean more left. Or whichever way the wind blows.

Making an AR full auto.Not as easy as you think. And as far as that goes I can take a Glock 19 with a 30 round mag. And do a mag dump in about 2 and a half seconds.

And if you think all they want is your AK or AR you're crazy. They want you to have no guns.

about all the Chinese made AR parts being smuggled in. I imagine anyone that knows anything about firearms wouldn't buy that junk And if you banned the so-called asalt rifles that would just open up that market.
Ss far as Kel-Tec buying up and distributing all this ammo they need to do something cuz from what I've seen their weapons are crap. What did I forget???



I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.Originally posted by Off the chain


Perhaps you should read more, and watch less television???

https://www.foxnews.com/us/2-affiliated-with-boogaloo-extremist-group-charged-with-inciting-a-riot-sc-sheriff

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/10/795366630/boogaloo-is-the-new-far-right-slang-for-civil-war




Off the chain
07/03/20 0:37


Inciting a riot? He threw a water bottle at the cops. I'm glad to see the police are finally charging these morons for stuff like that. I wonder how they figured the affiliation with the booger bunch. I don't see a Hawaiian shirt. Like natureboy said just a bunch of misfit want a be snowflakes.

How about this??
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/protests-armed-white-vigilantes/2020/06/04/09e17610-a5bb-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html
they call them white nationalist vigilantes white supremacist.




I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.
Off the chain
07/03/20 2:25


Snap of the fingers and it goes from the evil assault weapon. To your planker.

https://www.armslist.com/posts/12049523/myrtle-beach-south-carolina-rifles-for-sale-trade--marlin-camp-9


I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.
Off the chain
07/03/20 13:30


It's 9:30 and haven't heard of Peep. Did the booger boys come to town and knock down the internet.

I really can't find any of these memes about the booger boys Polly talking about.
The only ones that I found were making fun of them.


I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.
Off the chain
07/03/20 17:26


Why did find someone talking about the booger boys exit.

https://youtu.be/aHaatCr2LwM


I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.
sman
07/03/20 21:03


That’s what I call a shutdown OTC
sman
07/03/20 21:17


Bayrider
07/05/20 14:02


Bayrider
07/06/20 15:34


natureboy
07/07/20 11:16






It's 9:30 and haven't heard of Peep. Did the booger boys come to town and knock down the internet.

I really can't find any of these memes about the booger boys Polly talking about.
The only ones that I found were making fun of them.


I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.Originally posted by Off the chain

Altarboi is just trying to cover dem butt for having favored hate groups. And he did make a weak attempt to identify an AR as an automatic weapons as per dem talking points.
Fred67
07/07/20 13:00


More ignorant marxists

https://summit.news/2020/07/06/statue-of-black-abolitionist-of-frederick-douglass-torn-down-in-rochester/

Originally posted by Bayrider


Just shows this statue toppling is not about racism. It’s about erasing our past and pushing communism/ socialism and anarchy.
Bayrider
07/31/20 11:46


Fat Nadler says Antifa violence is a myth

https://farleftwatch.com/antifa-militia-group-encourages-facebook-followers-to-shoot-federal-agents-in-the-face/

that’s good to know for their planned protest in Columbia hopefully no one gets shot in the face
Off the chain
07/31/20 17:38


Twitter don't have a problem with that. But Donald Jr posts about hydroquinone. (Maybe I spelled that right I don't know. I can't even pronounce it correctly.) And they take his post down within minutes.
????????


I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.
Off the chain
08/03/20 19:45


Maybe we just get gun-free zone signs .

It's good enough for our kids in school.


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/509557-100-police-agencies-pull-out-of-democratic-national-convention-security


I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.


I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.
Bayrider
08/04/20 11:17


Democrat controlled cities prepare law abiding Americans for their new lives

https://summit.news/2020/08/03/minneapolis-authorities-warn-residents-prepare-to-be-robbed-obey-criminals/

obey Democrats and criminals what’s that tell you?
Bayrider
08/05/20 12:17


Mediocrats propaganda and democrats are responsible for riots

https://www.lawofficer.com/we-told-you-so-the-george-floyd-incident/

C/p Minnesota withheld the full #GeorgeFloyd body cam footage for one reason and one reason only: they knew it would immediately dispel the race narrative and they wanted to assist the Democrats in dividing Americans in an election year.

Absolutely appalling.

BLACK LIES MATTER.

Bayrider
08/07/20 12:53


PalmerScott
08/07/20 20:35


When society breaks from the norms that allow/enable a civil society, it is not the government or any other institution that 'fixes' the problem(s). It is the average everyday citizen that adjusts his understanding of the situation and thereby fixes things.

Pre-revolutionary war, when the up-state and mid-state farmers were repeatedly robbed on their way back from selling their product in Charleston, the farmers created their own security force who became known as the Regulators. The local people created their own solution. ('Part of what led to the war when the Regulators delivered some bandits to the 'authorities' (brits) in Charleston and the 'authorities' arrested the Regulators and let the bandits go. Colonists weren't real happy about that. 'Reminds me of Philadelphia deciding to prosecute the couple that defended their home.)

After 911, we did a bunch of stuff to make flying safer. The gov't created a huge new bureaucracy to make sure we didn't carry weapons onto planes. However, the TSA's own IG testing and reporting shows that they routinely fail up to 90% of the undercover tests that they send through. That huge new govt organ does nothing to keep us safer. But, we are safer. And, that is because the average person has changed their response to a crazy person on a plane(e.g. a hijacking). Pre-911, passengers sat passively and waited to be rescued. Now, if someone tries to light a shoe or their underwear on fire or pulls out a box cutter, those around them (at least some of them) subdue the miscreant and tie him to a seat for the air marshals to collect (if there isnt an air marshal on the plane).

Similarly, with this Wuhan virus stuff, it will be the aggregate effect of each individual's personal risk assessment and how to manage that risk that will determine how we deal with this bug.

To the main idea, what's going on relative to the defund the police push? I don't do a lot of shooting, but, I've always enjoyed it and when out-of-town friends who are avid shooters come to town, we go play. I cannot, and have not been able to find bulk 9mm Luger for several months. Bought a 6.5 creedmoor rifle a while back. (Love it. Tall skinny guy who hates the beating a 30-6 puts on him (me). 4-6 shots and I'm flinching. 6.5 cm is strong enough and there is no beating. But, that's another topic.) Can still find 6.5 cm, but, it is getting slim (pun), also. I wasn't to worried when people started stock piling toilet paper. But, we're seeing an absolutely enormous increase in the stock piling of weapons/ammunition. Every day people are arming up. Where are we going as a society? The leftists better make sure the want what they are asking for. Let me say that I think a shooting conflict is the absolute worst outcome for any situation. 'Better to figure out how to live with each other. But, a LOT of people are arming up. A LOT!

Interesting Times.




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Off the chain
08/08/20 1:49


Yep PSA Mount pleasant had a pallet of 6.5 in ammo cans yesterday. A few cases of 9mm and a lot of 22. There's not didly for guns.

Good read!!


I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.
Bayrider
08/08/20 11:23


When society breaks from the norms that allow/enable a civil society, it is not the government or any other institution that 'fixes' the problem(s). It is the average everyday citizen that adjusts his understanding of the situation and thereby fixes things.

Pre-revolutionary war, when the up-state and mid-state farmers were repeatedly robbed on their way back from selling their product in Charleston, the farmers created their own security force who became known as the Regulators. The local people created their own solution. ('Part of what led to the war when the Regulators delivered some bandits to the 'authorities' (brits) in Charleston and the 'authorities' arrested the Regulators and let the bandits go. Colonists weren't real happy about that. 'Reminds me of Philadelphia deciding to prosecute the couple that defended their home.)

After 911, we did a bunch of stuff to make flying safer. The gov't created a huge new bureaucracy to make sure we didn't carry weapons onto planes. However, the TSA's own IG testing and reporting shows that they routinely fail up to 90% of the undercover tests that they send through. That huge new govt organ does nothing to keep us safer. But, we are safer. And, that is because the average person has changed their response to a crazy person on a plane(e.g. a hijacking). Pre-911, passengers sat passively and waited to be rescued. Now, if someone tries to light a shoe or their underwear on fire or pulls out a box cutter, those around them (at least some of them) subdue the miscreant and tie him to a seat for the air marshals to collect (if there isnt an air marshal on the plane).

Similarly, with this Wuhan virus stuff, it will be the aggregate effect of each individual's personal risk assessment and how to manage that risk that will determine how we deal with this bug.

To the main idea, what's going on relative to the defund the police push? I don't do a lot of shooting, but, I've always enjoyed it and when out-of-town friends who are avid shooters come to town, we go play. I cannot, and have not been able to find bulk 9mm Luger for several months. Bought a 6.5 creedmoor rifle a while back. (Love it. Tall skinny guy who hates the beating a 30-6 puts on him (me). 4-6 shots and I'm flinching. 6.5 cm is strong enough and there is no beating. But, that's another topic.) Can still find 6.5 cm, but, it is getting slim (pun), also. I wasn't to worried when people started stock piling toilet paper. But, we're seeing an absolutely enormous increase in the stock piling of weapons/ammunition. Every day people are arming up. Where are we going as a society? The leftists better make sure the want what they are asking for. Let me say that I think a shooting conflict is the absolute worst outcome for any situation. 'Better to figure out how to live with each other. But, a LOT of people are arming up. A LOT!

Interesting Times.




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26' Palmer Scott project hull
14' Bentz-Craft w/ Yamaha 25Originally posted by PalmerScott


I nominate you as the community organizer of the average citizens, which park will the meeting be held in?

http://www.alt-market.com/index.php/articles/4296-i-started-a-local-gun-and-preparedness-club-and-leftists-tried-to-interfere

Off the chain
08/23/20 17:15


Bayrider
08/23/20 22:52


The folks Biden refuses to condemn

https://www.dailywire.com/news/leftists-storm-suburb-with-guillotine-burn-american-flags-get-in-the-fing-streets

democrat controlled cities any questions?
Fred67
08/24/20 0:01


https://www.officer.com/command-hq/technology/security-surveillance/news/21151145/chicago-police-ban-protests-on-mayors-block-order-arrests-for-anyone-who-wont-leave

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I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.Originally posted by Off the chain


You listen to these democratic city leaders wanting to defund the police and promote violent protests ..... But not in their neighborhood. Do as I say, not as I do. Sickening.
Fred67
08/24/20 0:04


The folks Biden refuses to condemn

https://www.dailywire.com/news/leftists-storm-suburb-with-guillotine-burn-american-flags-get-in-the-fing-streets

democrat controlled cities any questions?Originally posted by Bayrider


Anyone caught burning the flag should loose instantly loose their citizenship and made to leave America.
Bayrider
09/11/20 22:49


Bayrider
09/11/20 23:26


Bayrider
09/14/20 11:37


Cp Americans pay tax dollars to help public radio promote riots and send a reporter to a BLM gathering to allegedly interfere with an arrest. NPR should be removed from the taxpayer's teet immediately.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/09/13/npr-upset-over-one-of-their-reporters-arrested-for-allegedly-interfering-with-arrest-in-la-riot-n2576129

Fred67
09/14/20 14:06


Bay, I still listen to NPR from time to time... It is truly sickening how biased they are and funded by tax payers. Once in a blue moon someone will slip on and defend Trump only to be shut down quickly.
Off the chain
09/14/20 18:23


It looks to me it's getting pretty close to the time to circle the wagons.shooting police officers and then protesting outside the hospital screaming Hope you die.
If these low lives weren't committing crimes and then not complying they would not get shot..

It's not going to be long these police are going to throw their hands up and say the hell with it. And could you blame them?


I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.

22 life's a day
Bayrider
09/17/20 20:51


Democrat controlled city asks a profound question

https://www.theblaze.com/news/minneapolis-where-are-the-police
Bayrider
09/19/20 20:22


Fred67
09/20/20 13:00


Democrat controlled city asks a profound question

https://www.theblaze.com/news/minneapolis-where-are-the-policeOriginally posted by Bayrider


What do these idiots expect after defunding Police? Sad thing is for all the honest hard working people there trying to make a life and living.
areeldrag
09/20/20 16:42


The left makes a sheet show out of everything they do. They are like kids looking for attention by acting out. What they all need is a swift kick in the ars.


Sportsman Masters 207
Yamaha F150
Bayrider
09/22/20 22:39


Law and order in republican controlled state

https://www.flgov.com/2020/09/21/governor-ron-desantis-announces-the-combatting-violence-disorder-and-looting-and-law-enforcement-protection-act/

https://youtu.be/AfIePZO0QrE

Cp Judd was once asked by a local reporter why a known cop killer was shot 38 times in an exchange of gunfire during his arrest… Judd replied: “because that’s all the bullets we had.”

haters and Marxists feel free to vacation in Chicago, NYC, Portland or Seattle
Richard Beer Froth
09/22/20 22:43


Drumpf, defunding America with debt!

https://www.usdebtclock.org/


RBF


No, many military choose not to vote because they are too lazy to.
Originally posted by Fred67
Fred67
09/24/20 14:44


Drumpf, defunding America with debt!

https://www.usdebtclock.org/


RBF

/quote=Originally posted by Richard Beer Froth]

so are you implying you think we need to defund the police? You sure have Mr. Trump buried deep under your skin. And you call me hard headed?
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