Will this years SEC West go down as the best division in all of CFB history?
I think it probably should, but by the end of the year, many will not care. Because they still have to play each other and someone has to lose
I can see the west beating each other up and NOBODY from the SEC makes the playoff. That would be sweet.
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Have they played any quality opponents other than others in the West Division?
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TEXAS AM
South Carolina W 52 - 28
Lamar W 3 - 73
Rice W 10 - 38
SMU W 58 - 6
Arkansas W 28 - 35
Miss State L 31 - 48 Final
OLE MISS
Boise State W 13 - 35
Vanderbilt W 41 - 3
La-Lafayette W 15 - 56
Memphis W 3 - 24
Alabama W 17 - 23
MISS ST
Southern Miss W 0 - 49
UAB W 34 - 47
South Alabama W 35 - 3
LSU W 34 - 29
Texas A&M W 31 - 48
ALABAMA
West Virginia W 23 - 33
Florida Atlantic W 0 - 41
Southern Miss W 12 - 52
Florida W 21 - 42
Ole Miss L 17 - 23
AUBURN
Arkansas W 21 - 45
San Jose State W 13 - 59
Kansas State W 20 - 14
Louisiana Tech W 17 - 45
LSU W 7 - 41
ARKANSAS
Auburn L 45-21
Nichols St W 73-7
Northern Illinois W52-14
Texas Tech W49-28
Tex AM L 35-28
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Originally posted by CaptFritzI can see the west beating each other up and NOBODY from the SEC makes the playoff. That would be sweet.
How about UGA somehow finding a way to win the SECCG (they are going to be Missouri this weekend) and they are the only ones to make it…
If your team is in the SEC West, the best position would be to finish 2nd in the West so that you have no chance of losing in the SECCG. No doubt that the 2nd best team in the SEC West will get a bid for the playoffs.
Phin, the answer to your question is no, not really. However you clearly keep up with CFB and do you seriously even consider that the SEC West isn’t the best division in the country as of today?
Phin is a poser and SEC hater.
He’s trying to perfect the art of talking in circles.
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Playing those SEC west teams is tough enough…it’s not tlike they play in the ACC or anything.
“Apathy is the Glove into Which Evil Slips It’s Hand”.
Best wins for the SEC West have been against:
S.Car
Boise State
Vanderbilt
Florida
Kansas State
Louisiana Tech
Texas Tech
One, that’s only one, of these best wins for this SEC West, out of division, have come against a currently ranked opponent, Kansas State, who is #17.
So, if you’re going to go off the snapshot taken at 5 games into the season, then go off the complete snapshot.
The West in the SEC may be the best right now. They’re certainly ranked that way. We’ve got more games to play, however, and I think there are teams in other conferences and divisions who can defeat several of the SEC West teams everyone’s praising right now.
23sailfish got it all confused. I am a hater of SEC posers*, not a poser who hates the SEC…
The SEC will get two teams into the playoff, but are you willing to say that one of them will win the national championship?
It seems to me that you SEC posers are already sandbagging. “They’ll beat up on one another too badly.” etc. etc.
If you’d played against all this awesome competition and get all that SEC TV and bowl money every year, then you have more reason to WIN than to LOSE due to your conference and division. Y’all like to conveniently leave out the aspects of being in the SEC when they don’t help you in your posing all that much, 23sail.
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Originally posted by PhinBest wins for the SEC West have been against:
S.Car
Boise State
Vanderbilt
Florida
Kansas State
Louisiana Tech
Texas TechOne, that’s only one, of these best wins for this SEC West, out of division, have come against a currently ranked opponent, Kansas State, who is #17.
So, if you’re going to go off the snapshot taken at 5 games into the season, then go off the complete snapshot.
The West in the SEC may be the best right now. They’re certainly ranked that way. We’ve got more games to play, however, and I think there are teams in other conferences and divisions who can defeat several of the SEC West teams everyone’s praising right now.
23sailfish got it all confused. I am a hater of SEC posers*, not a poser who hates the SEC…
The SEC will get two teams into the playoff, but are you willing to say that one of them will win the national championship?
It seems to me that you SEC posers are already sandbagging. “They’ll beat up on one another too badly.” etc. etc.
If you'd played against all this awesome competition and get all that SEC TV and bowl money every year, then you have more reason to WIN than to LOSE due to your conference and division. Y'all like to conveniently leave out the aspects of being in the SEC when they don't help you in your posing all that much, 23sail.
I understand every word you wrote. I just can not for the life of me understand what you are trying to say
I’m sorry.
I will slow down and try not to sound like I am talking in circles, as 23sailfish says.
College football is a business. Within this business, there are different entities, and there are groups of entities with common financial arrangements.
Agree or disagree?
I will wait before I move on, lest I be accused of hating anything.
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To answer your first question - yes, I am willing to say that an SEC team will win the national championship. Especially considering, even you admit, that two SEC teams will make the four team playoff. Just playing the odds. Oh, and the fact that an SEC team has won the national championship 7 out of the last 8 years helps with the odds too. I think anyone would be crazy not to say and SEC team will win the NCG.
To answer the second question - yes, I do agree that CFB is a business. To date, the SEC has been taking care of business.
Back to Shevlin’s original question, based on what you have watched thus far this season, does the SEC West appear to be in the argument for the best division in CFB history? That is a hard question to answer because it would take some serious research to determine other comparable divisions but it is hard to think that a division was loaded with this many good teams in recent memory. Again, not arguing who they have played to date based on their schedule just responding based on watching the games being played and comparing the teams against the other teams in the country. When LSU and ARK are the worst teams in your division, things are tough.
You think this year’s Bama, Auburn, and Ole Miss are more impressive teams than say a 2009/2010/2011/2012 Bama, Auburn and LSU?
Is the quality everyone perceives this year, perhaps, simply that MSU and Ole Miss are not the door mats they may have been in recent history??? (plus TA&M)
Let’s just look at Alabama as a common denominator in the top of the division vs years past.
West Virginia W 23 - 33
Florida Atlantic W 0 - 41
Southern Miss W 12 - 52
Florida W 21 - 42
Ole Miss L 17 - 23
73 points scored by Alabama opponents in 5 games.
This would be a joke for the 2009 Bama team, wouldn’t it?
I guess you could argue that the 2009/2010/2011/2012 SEC West division, on average, is not as good as 2014 right now, but I think there’s more to it than that.
Now, if at the end of the year, no teams outside of the SEC West beat the SEC West, then you can take my exact same, but complete, list of game scores and stick in here and prove that it has been the best division in history. I think that’d be what it took- unless there was that division champion that was clearly one of the best teams of all time, like that 2009 Bama team was.
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according to Phin, Alabama is not a good team.
Shevylin, if UGA makes the big dance then you can say that your squad lost to them which must make yall just as good as them 5 out of 10 times or something like that.
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Originally posted by CaptFritzaccording to Phin, Alabama is not a good team.
Shevylin, if UGA makes the big dance then you can say that your squad lost to them which must make yall just as good as them 5 out of 10 times or something like that.
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Man I have not have heard that nickname since my girlfriend in 6th grade would call me that. she is was 19 though and had some extra wit.
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Originally posted by shevyquote:
Originally posted by CaptFritzaccording to Phin, Alabama is not a good team.
Shevylin, if UGA makes the big dance then you can say that your squad lost to them which must make yall just as good as them 5 out of 10 times or something like that.
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Man I have not have that nickname since my girlfriend in 6th grade would call me that. she is was 19 though and had some extra wit.
Huh?
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Originally posted by CaptFritzaccording to Phin, Alabama is not a good team.
Shevylin, if UGA makes the big dance then you can say that your squad lost to them which must make yall just as good as them 5 out of 10 times or something like that.
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According to a lot of Bama fans and pundits, Alabama is not a good team compared to those in the past Phin alludes to. LSU sucks. Ole Miss and Miss St will lose 2 or more. Auburn is the best of the west and SEC but they’ll lose one too.
Bob Stoops would probably disagree with you homers on how good the SEC is too. As would Jimbo Fisher. The top 10 and 25 as a whole will look completely different when the poll that matters comes out. You will not see 2 SEC teams in the playoff. You may not see any in it in fact.
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Really… “You may not see any in it in fact” - that seems more like a wish than a well thought out post
I think the distance between the conferences has been negated in the last couple of years. The rules changes that favor offense and hinder defense have helped teams to be able to run the high speed offenses to perfection. Salty your disdain for the SEC i(or sports radio) s clouding your judgement. I am not a conference guy,. I do not get some kind of victory if someone else in the SEC wins the national championship. I do think the SEC west is a tough division, but nor the best ever. Until last week I really thought Oklahoma was the best team out there, but not so sure now. They have both components of passing and running in their offense, which not many teams that use that up tempo offense have both components, most cannot run the ball. To say no one from the SEC will make it seems a little far fetched. You mention Auburn will lose one, I think allmost everyone will have one loss before this year is over.