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If the Resisters, Never-Trumpers, Trump-Haters or whatever you think you are, want to know why Trump got elected & will be re-elected, take 3 minutes to read this

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President Trump has made more than 20,000 false or misleading claims
The Fact Checker is keeping a running list of the false or misleading claims Trump says most regularly. Here’s what you need to know. (Meg Kelly/The Washington Post)
By
Glenn Kessler,
Salvador Rizzo and
Meg Kelly
July 13, 2020 at 3:00 a.m. EDT
It took President Trump 827 days to top 10,000 false and misleading claims in The Fact Checker’s database, an average of 12 claims a day.

But on July 9, just 440 days later, the president crossed the 20,000 mark — an average of 23 claims a day over a 14-month period, which included the events leading up to Trump’s impeachment trial, the worldwide pandemic that crashed the economy and the eruption of protests over the death of George Floyd in police custody.

The coronavirus pandemic has spawned a whole new genre of Trump’s falsehoods. The category in just a few months has reached nearly 1,000 claims, more than his tax claims combined. Trump’s false or misleading claims about the impeachment investigation — and the events surrounding it — contributed almost 1,200 entries to the database.

The notion that Trump would exceed 20,000 claims before he finished his term appeared ludicrous when The Fact Checker started this project during the president’s first 100 days in office. In that time, Trump averaged fewer than five claims a day, which would have added up to about 7,000 claims in a four-year presidential term. But the tsunami of untruths just keeps looming larger and larger.

As of July 9, the tally in our database stands at 20,055 claims in 1,267 days.

Just as when Trump crossed the 10,000 threshold, an interview with Sean Hannity of Fox News helped Trump breach the 20,000 mark. Trump racked up 62 claims on July 9, about half of which came during the Hannity interview: Trump’s statements cover a substantial range of his bogus attacks, conspiracy theories, boasts and inaccurate information:

— Former president Barack Obama “did not want” to give surplus military equipment to police. Obama scaled back the program but still allowed specialized firearms, manned and unmanned aircraft, explosives and riot gear.

— Trump has “tremendous support” in the African American community. No polling shows this.

— Trump “insisted” the National Guard be used in Minneapolis to quell disturbances and Seattle officials “knew” he was ready to act with force if the city did not shut down protests. Local officials say neither claim is true; they acted on their own.

— The United States has a “record” for coronavirus testing, and China has not tested as many people as the United States. The United States still lags several major countries in terms of tests per million people, the best metric for comparison. The United States has a higher per capita testing rate than China, but China in June said it had tested 90 million people — at the time, three times as many as the United States.

— Obama and former vice president Joe Biden “spied” on his campaign and “knew everything that was going on.” Trump has made allegations of Obama spying since 2017, based on little or no evidence.

— The jury forewoman in the Roger Stone trial was “disgraceful.” The judge in the case rejected claims of bias. Tomeka Hart’s political leanings and activities were clearly known during the jury selection process, and not even Stone’s legal team tried to strike her from the jury pool.

— Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign manager, was placed in “solitary confinement,” while Al Capone “was never in solitary confinement.” Manafort was in a “private, self-contained living unit” that was larger than other units, which included a bathroom, shower, telephone and laptop access, according to court records. Capone was eventually sent to the infamous Alcatraz prison, where he was stabbed and got into fights and, according to some reports, ended up in solitary confinement as his brain deteriorated from untreated syphilis.

— “We’re doing record numbers on the border.” In 2020, no records have been set, and border apprehensions spiked sharply in June.

— “We’ve rebuilt the military, 2.5 trillion dollars.” Trump frequently suggests this money is all for new equipment, but he’s just adding together three years of budgets, none of which is a record.

So far during his presidency, Trump’s most repeated claim — 360 times — is that the U.S. economy today is the best in history. He began making this claim in June 2018, and it quickly became one of his favorites. He’s been forced to adapt for the tough economic times, and doing so has made it even more fantastic. Whereas he used to say it was the best economy in U.S. history, he now often recalls that he achieved “the best economy in the history of the world.”

That’s not true. The president once could brag about the state of the economy, but he ran into trouble when he made a play for the history books. By just about any important measure, the pre-coronavirus economy was not doing as well as it did under Presidents Dwight D. Eisenhower, Lyndon B. Johnson or Bill Clinton — or Ulysses S. Grant. Moreover, the economy was already beginning to hit the head winds caused by Trump’s trade wars, with the manufacturing sector in an apparent recession.

Trump has repeated this “best economy” claim more than 100 times just since the coronavirus emerged in China and sent the economy into a tailspin, robbing Trump of what he had expected would be his top sales pitch for reelection.

Trump’s second-most repeated claim — 261 times — is that his border wall is being built. Congress balked at funding the concrete barrier he envisioned, so the project evolved into the replacement of smaller, older barriers with steel bollard fencing. (Only three miles of the barrier is on land that previously did not have a barrier.) The Washington Post has reported that the bollard fencing is easily breached, with smugglers sawing through it, despite Trump’s claims that it is impossible to get past. Nevertheless, the project has diverted billions in military and counternarcotics funding to become one of the largest infrastructure projects in U.S. history, seizing private land, cutting off wildlife corridors and disrupting Native American cultural sites.

Trump has falsely said 210 times that he passed the biggest tax cut in history. Even before his tax cut was crafted, he promised it would be the biggest in U.S. history — bigger than President Ronald Reagan’s in 1981. Reagan’s tax cut amounted to 2.9 percent of the gross domestic product, and none of the proposals under consideration came close to that level. Yet Trump persisted in this fiction even when the tax cut was eventually crafted to be the equivalent of 0.9 percent of GDP, making it the eighth-largest tax cut in 100 years. This continues to be an all-purpose applause line at the president’s rallies.

Trump’s penchant for repeating false claims is demonstrated by the fact that the Fact Checker database has recorded nearly 500 instances in which he has repeated a variation of the same claim at least three times.

The Fact Checker also tracks Three- or Four-Pinocchio claims that Trump has said at least 20 times, earning him a Bottomless Pinocchio. There are now 40 entries, with the most recent addition being his false claim that he has spent $2.5 trillion on new military equipment.

The award-winning database website, created by graphics reporter Leslie Shapiro, has an extremely fast search engine that will quickly locate suspect statements the president has made. We encourage readers to explore it in detail.

Readers may also be interested in our new book, which was published June 2 by Scribner: “Donald Trump and His Assault on Truth: The President’s Falsehoods, Misleading Claims and Flat-Out Lies.” We drew on the database to compile a guide to Trump’s most frequently used misstatements, biggest whoppers and most dangerous deceptions. We examine in detail how Trump misleads about himself and his foes, the economy, immigration, the Ukraine controversy, foreign policy, the coronavirus crisis and many other issues. The book is a national bestseller and earned a starred review from Kirkus Reviews, which called it “an extremely valuable chronicle.”

Note: The Fact Checker welcomes academic research of the Trump claims database. Recent examples include work done by Erasmus University of Rotterdam, University College London and the University of California at Santa Barbara. You can request our data files with an explanation of your research plans by contacting us at factchecker@washpost.com.

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BOB
President Trump has made more than 20,000 false or misleading claims
The Fact Checker is keeping a running list of the false or misleading claims Trump says most regularly.
Today’s Headlines
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If Trump were to loose I could see McCarthy's position in jeopardy. What's a lie about that?
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Of course it has. This pandemic has been the best thing ever for the Democrats. What's a lie about that?
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What false Conspiracy theory are you referring to?
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“I heard it today that [Harris] doesn’t meet the requirements. And, by the way, the lawyer that wrote that piece is a very highly qualified, very talented lawyer. I have no idea if that’s right. I would have assumed the Democrats would have checked that out.” He never promoted it. Just the left media cherry picking. You need to get a mind of your own Bob.
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BOBOriginally posted by Bob 241


Old BOB learned how to copy and paste! Good for you, at least you are now attempting a dialog instead of repeating and repeating "fear mongering".

By the way, how is this fact checker checking "misleading" claims? Is it kind of like the media stating Trump said to Drink Clorox? That was a pretty big lie from the left.

Now you need to explain Biden and his reference to letting little children rub his leg hairs down in the pool, to watching the coach roaches run. Really, why do you think Biden is the better choice?
Go low Fred thats the only way you know.


BOB
And you look up and say "WHO ME"


BOB
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First thing’s first: What exactly is supposed to be on this “pee tape”?
The video in question reportedly shows Trump in the presidential suite at Moscow’s posh Ritz-Carlton Hotel, watching two prostitutes pee on a bed the Obamas supposedly slept in. The incident allegedly took place in 2013, when Trump was visiting Moscow to attend the Miss Universe pageant.

Oh.
Yeah.

So, is this what you would call a “golden shower”?
Not technically. A golden shower is when people pee on each other for sexual pleasure. Trump watching women pee on a bed to spite the president, but not peeing or getting peed on himself, isn’t a golden shower, but it could be considered a form of urolagnia, which is sexual excitement associated with the sight or thought of urine and/or urination.

Wait, who filmed it?
The Ritz-Carlton was allegedly under surveillance by the FSB, Russia’s main state security agency, and successor to the KGB, which had microphones and hidden cameras in many of the rooms, including, it seems, the soiled presidential suite.

So…
That means, if it indeed exists, Russian president Vladimir Putin is likely in possession of the tape.

Which means…
There is a chance the president of the United States could be vulnerable to blackmail by the Russian government, or, as New York’s Jonathan Chait has suggested, is currently being blackmailed by them.

Yikes, okay. So what is the Steele dossier, and what does it have to do with the tape?
The Steele dossier is a collection of 17 intelligence reports that were compiled by former MI6 operative and Russian specialist Christopher Steele in 2016. Steele was hired by Fusion GPS, a private political research firm based in Washington, D.C., which had, in turn, been hired by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign to look into Trump’s ties to Russia. One of the reports, dated June 20, 2016, details Trump’s “(perverted) conduct” at the Ritz-Carlton.

Steele concluded that the Russian government has been “cultivating, supporting and assisting” Trump for years, and that it had colluded with members of the Trump presidential campaign to help him win the 2016 election.

The reports had been floating around in media and political circles for some time (both President Obama and then-President-Elect Trump had reportedly been briefed on the contents of the dossier in early January 2017) when, on January 10, 2017, BuzzFeed News published the document online, and it wasn’t long before outlets everywhere seized on the detail of the possible pee tape.

How credible is Steele’s report of the pee tape?
That’s up for some debate. As Jane Mayer noted in The New Yorker, all four of Steele’s sources on the pee tape had only secondhand knowledge of it — none of them had seen it themselves or spoken to the prostitutes allegedly involved.

That being said, they seem like fairly knowledgeable players. According to Mayer, they are described as: “a former top-level Russian intelligence officer still active inside the Kremlin,” a “member of the staff at the hotel,” a “female staffer at the hotel when trump had stayed there,” and “a close associate of Trump who had organized and managed his recent trips to Moscow.”

Can I read the Steele dossier?
Yes. You can read the documents BuzzFeed uploaded here.

What does Trump have to say about it?
Trump has vehemently denied the golden-shower allegations but, like the rest of us, is somewhat obsessed with them. He has publicly called the dossier “fake” and he repeatedly denied the tape’s existence to former FBI Director James Comey, who says the president told him: “I’m a germaphobe. There’s no way I would let people pee on each other around me. No way.”

He also reportedly told Comey that there was no way the pee tape could exist “because he had not stayed overnight in Moscow but had only used the hotel room to change his clothes.” As Mother Jones’ David Corn and Michael Isikoff reported in March, however, Trump did in fact stay overnight at the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow, approving the Miss Universe finalists on November 8, 2013 (as a Miss Universe staffer later noted, “If there were too many women of color, he would make changes,”) and attending the final of the pageant itself on November 9.

Didn’t James Comey say it was “possible” the pee tape is real?
Yes. Granted, it was in April 2018, while the former FBI director was promoting his book, A Higher Loyalty, so take it with a grain of salt.

Comey said Trump asked him to investigate whether Putin has the tape, writing, “He brought up what he called the ‘golden showers thing’ … adding that it bothered him if there was ‘even a 1 percent chance’ his wife, Melania, thought it was true. He just rolled on, unprompted, explaining why it couldn’t possibly be true, ending by saying he was thinking of asking me to investigate the allegation to prove it was a lie. I said it was up to him.”

He also told ABC’s George Stephanopolous during an interview that month that it’s “possible” the pee tape is real:

I honestly never thought these words would come out of my mouth, but I don’t know whether the current president of the United States was with prostitutes peeing on each other in Moscow in 2013. It’s possible, but I don’t know.

So, is the tape real?
While we can’t be entirely sure, and there are certainly many people who believe it is real, the pee tape probably doesn’t exist.

As Madison Malone Kircher noted over at Intelligencer, footnotes in the second volume of the Mueller report show that Trump’s former attorney-slash-fixer Michael Cohen got a text during the 2016 campaign from Giorgi Rtskhiladze, a Russian businessman, which said: “Stopped flow of tapes from Russia but not sure if there’s anything else. Just so you know.”



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BOB
First thing’s first: What exactly is supposed to be on this “pee tape”?
The video in question reportedly shows Trump in the presidential suite at Moscow’s posh Ritz-Carlton Hotel, watching two prostitutes pee on a bed the Obamas supposedly slept in. The incident allegedly took place in 2013, when Trump was visiting Moscow to attend the Miss Universe pageant.

Oh.
Yeah.

So, is this what you would call a “golden shower”?
Not technically. A golden shower is when people pee on each other for sexual pleasure. Trump watching women pee on a bed to spite the president, but not peeing or getting peed on himself, isn’t a golden shower, but it could be considered a form of urolagnia, which is sexual excitement associated with the sight or thought of urine and/or urination.

Wait, who filmed it?
The Ritz-Carlton was allegedly under surveillance by the FSB, Russia’s main state security agency, and successor to the KGB, which had microphones and hidden cameras in many of the rooms, including, it seems, the soiled presidential suite.

So…
That means, if it indeed exists, Russian president Vladimir Putin is likely in possession of the tape.

Which means…
There is a chance the president of the United States could be vulnerable to blackmail by the Russian government, or, as New York’s Jonathan Chait has suggested, is currently being blackmailed by them.

Yikes, okay. So what is the Steele dossier, and what does it have to do with the tape?
The Steele dossier is a collection of 17 intelligence reports that were compiled by former MI6 operative and Russian specialist Christopher Steele in 2016. Steele was hired by Fusion GPS, a private political research firm based in Washington, D.C., which had, in turn, been hired by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign to look into Trump’s ties to Russia. One of the reports, dated June 20, 2016, details Trump’s “(perverted) conduct” at the Ritz-Carlton.

Steele concluded that the Russian government has been “cultivating, supporting and assisting” Trump for years, and that it had colluded with members of the Trump presidential campaign to help him win the 2016 election.

The reports had been floating around in media and political circles for some time (both President Obama and then-President-Elect Trump had reportedly been briefed on the contents of the dossier in early January 2017) when, on January 10, 2017, BuzzFeed News published the document online, and it wasn’t long before outlets everywhere seized on the detail of the possible pee tape.

How credible is Steele’s report of the pee tape?
That’s up for some debate. As Jane Mayer noted in The New Yorker, all four of Steele’s sources on the pee tape had only secondhand knowledge of it — none of them had seen it themselves or spoken to the prostitutes allegedly involved.

That being said, they seem like fairly knowledgeable players. According to Mayer, they are described as: “a former top-level Russian intelligence officer still active inside the Kremlin,” a “member of the staff at the hotel,” a “female staffer at the hotel when trump had stayed there,” and “a close associate of Trump who had organized and managed his recent trips to Moscow.”

Can I read the Steele dossier?
Yes. You can read the documents BuzzFeed uploaded here.

What does Trump have to say about it?
Trump has vehemently denied the golden-shower allegations but, like the rest of us, is somewhat obsessed with them. He has publicly called the dossier “fake” and he repeatedly denied the tape’s existence to former FBI Director James Comey, who says the president told him: “I’m a germaphobe. There’s no way I would let people pee on each other around me. No way.”

He also reportedly told Comey that there was no way the pee tape could exist “because he had not stayed overnight in Moscow but had only used the hotel room to change his clothes.” As Mother Jones’ David Corn and Michael Isikoff reported in March, however, Trump did in fact stay overnight at the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow, approving the Miss Universe finalists on November 8, 2013 (as a Miss Universe staffer later noted, “If there were too many women of color, he would make changes,”) and attending the final of the pageant itself on November 9.

Didn’t James Comey say it was “possible” the pee tape is real?
Yes. Granted, it was in April 2018, while the former FBI director was promoting his book, A Higher Loyalty, so take it with a grain of salt.

Comey said Trump asked him to investigate whether Putin has the tape, writing, “He brought up what he called the ‘golden showers thing’ … adding that it bothered him if there was ‘even a 1 percent chance’ his wife, Melania, thought it was true. He just rolled on, unprompted, explaining why it couldn’t possibly be true, ending by saying he was thinking of asking me to investigate the allegation to prove it was a lie. I said it was up to him.”

He also told ABC’s George Stephanopolous during an interview that month that it’s “possible” the pee tape is real:

I honestly never thought these words would come out of my mouth, but I don’t know whether the current president of the United States was with prostitutes peeing on each other in Moscow in 2013. It’s possible, but I don’t know.

So, is the tape real?
While we can’t be entirely sure, and there are certainly many people who believe it is real, the pee tape probably doesn’t exist.

As Madison Malone Kircher noted over at Intelligencer, footnotes in the second volume of the Mueller report show that Trump’s former attorney-slash-fixer Michael Cohen got a text during the 2016 campaign from Giorgi Rtskhiladze, a Russian businessman, which said: “Stopped flow of tapes from Russia but not sure if there’s anything else. Just so you know.”



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BOBOriginally posted by Bob 241

Bend over Bob, you have nothing but a bunch of guesses and assorted BS. Let us know when you have some facts instead of a bunch of crap
20,000 lies and misinformation from Trump. I know y'all can't count that high but that is really a lot. thumbsUpthumbsUpthumbsUp. I think Bay has him beat. Fred's in there to but mostly hes an u'huh man. Ain't that right Fred?


BOB
I'm guessing Trump claiming that his campaign was spied on was a misleading lie.
There's proof that the Trump campaign was spied on.
Read this definition and this would apply to Miss Harris. This is what she did to further her career.

pros·ti·tute
/ˈprästəˌt(y)o͞ot/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a person, in particular a woman, who engages in sexual activity for payment.

You need to send RBF a text and tell him to come back and play. I miss Richard.
I know double n misses him horribly. Hahaha




I am fragile.
Not like a flower.
But like a bomb.
Here a real sexual deviant to discuss

https://www.sovereignman.com/trends/does-anyone-else-find-this-ironic-28565/

Camel Laugh is somehow looking the other way when before he chose her she believed all the gals he groped, fondled or raped......I guess she is hoping no one asks her about how she rose to the top on her back.....man, what happened to the Democratic Party?

and Heels Up Harris is gonna need the Kenyan’s birth certificate dude to prove she’s no anchor baby

https://www.newsweek.com/some-questions-kamala-harris-about-eligibility-opinion-1524483

the walls are crashing in

https://youtu.be/nGvCV6nlDn0
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Here a real sexual deviant to discuss

https://www.sovereignman.com/trends/does-anyone-else-find-this-ironic-28565/

Camel Laugh is somehow looking the other way when before he chose her she believed all the gals he groped, fondled or raped......I guess she is hoping no one asks her about how she rose to the top on her back.....man, what happened to the Democratic Party?

and Heels Up Harris is gonna need the Kenyan’s birth certificate dude to prove she’s no anchor baby

https://www.newsweek.com/some-questions-kamala-harris-about-eligibility-opinion-1524483

the walls are crashing in

https://youtu.be/nGvCV6nlDn0Originally posted by Bayrider
AGREED ; BUT YA KNOW THEY ALWAYS SEEM TO HAVE A ( SUPPOSED TO BE AMERICAN BIRTH CIRTIFICATE )) HANDY questionquestion


George McDonald
US Navy Seabees,Retired,
MAD, Charleston Chapter
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When you see "Old Glory" waving in the breeze, know that it is the dying breaths of our fallen hero's that makes it wave.
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George McDonald
US Navy Seabees,Retired,
MAD, Charleston Chapter
[http://www.militaryappreciationday.org


When you see "Old Glory" waving in the breeze, know that it is the dying breaths of our fallen hero's that makes it wave.
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20,000 lies and misinformation from Trump. I know y'all can't count that high but that is really a lot. thumbsUpthumbsUpthumbsUp. I think Bay has him beat. Fred's in there to but mostly hes an u'huh man. Ain't that right Fred?


BOBOriginally posted by Bob 241


Lol. Bob, go back to your one liners. You are making a fool of yourself.

What have I gone low on? I damnn sure don’t let little kids rub my leg hairs.